naimplayer
Aspiring to be a halfwit.
So not your assertion then?
Good luck stay safe.
Good luck stay safe.
I must admit that if I were a Labour Party grandee it would worry me that a substantial number of people still can’t spell the leader’s name.Worrying thing about the current mood is that kier starmer is pissing in the wind.
No one knows what Labour stands for, and no one cares.
I must admit that if I were a Labour Party grandee it would worry me that a substantial number of people still can’t spell the leader’s name.
The biggest battle facing any opposition party right now. This is the creation of a think tank and it simply closes down any opposition argument and cements division in their favour; dangerous times, indeed.
How tricky would it be to come up with a lovable, self-deprecating campaign to heighten your profile? Say ‘I before E except after K’? That took me thirty seconds on my own, but I’m sure they can do better with their dedicated focus groups. Although they can have that one if they speak to my agents about terms.In fairness Keir can’t spell it himself according to iPad OS spell check. Kier is fine though.
PS FWIW my spelling is so poor iPad OS often can’t even figure out what word I mean and I have to google it. Google seems to have far better AI in that regard.
I was using the word in the sense of ‘to provoke.’ I see Baroness Somebody, President of the college, is quoted as saying something similar.
‘Being a student is about more than studying. It's about exploring and debating ideas. It's sometimes about provoking the older generation.’
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but after reading this thread, I couldn't find one mention of why the students decided to remove the picture in the first place.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but after reading this thread, I couldn't find one mention of why the students decided to remove the picture in the first place. It was to 'protect international students from imagery which may make them uncomfortable'. Yes, really. This is only a picture in a students common room, but the very same reason was given for removing the Rhodes statue at Oriel college as well, 'to protect students of colour'. You can't deny this is part of the craze currently sweeping the nation of removing statues which are deemed 'problematic' (what are deemed problematic can change on a daily basis). These elite students, mostly from privileged backgrounds represent no one but themselves - and I might add - far more likely to be distantly related to the 'problematic' figures of the past than joe public, are completely out of step with the wider public, and I don't blame Boris for exploiting it one bit, when Labour are just flapping about from the extremes to the centre.
It’s white pensioners stomping around with faces like thunder because they can’t go on holiday and their putting two fingers up to them Europeans hasn’t gone as expected. Now the same sort inside the Tory Party and the right wing tabloids are manufacturing outrage for them to drink like warm bitter.Antiwoke does imply pro social and racial justice. Not equivalent to Nazism perhaps, but a sign post on the road to it, certainly.
The wider public is alt-right, you know.the wider public
They really can’t do that . Partly because they think they have to listen to legitimate concerns etc but mostly because the alternative - change the conversation - is something they really don’t want to do: what on earth would they talk about?
So it’s all a bit academic as regards Labour. The rest of us have to decide what we want to do in the face of this storm of made up outrage and I’ve decided to just ignore most of it: I’ll take a stand when these things hit the institutions I’m involved with but I’m not going to waste time trying to talk angry right wingers out of their coronaries. I admire your patience but we’ve got years of this to come: you’ll wear yourself out before they do, this is all they have!
My disagreement is not about the Labour Party, but the significance of the anti woke movement.
Individual expressions of antiwokery, such as the Mail Headlines, might seem unimportant on their own, but that add up to a culture of aggressive intolerance and the propagation of lies.
I agree that Labour has positioned itself onto a place where it’s incapable of action, it seems incapable of taking a stand on anything at a macro level and even when it opposes government on specific things, it can only criticise on a micro level and those criticisms are quickly forgotten, but that is their problem.
On a larger level the Tories are winning hands down and the vehicle they are now using to drive their advantage forward, to create a society divided on social and racial justice, is antiwokery. Soon they will have their own TV station headed by Andrew Neil with an explicit antiwoke agenda. This is an agenda to attack those who are pro social and racial justice. This is an agenda to preserve a myth of our national greatness. This is an agenda to prevent any discussion about our history that does not fit the myth.
This agenda is an attempt to drive any discussion of social or racial justice into a cul de sac surrounded by Tory ideologues.
We have seen evidence that groups of Tory MPs are attempting to create a movement that rewrites history, not least from @oldius about a worker for the National Trust being harangued by complains for providing historical context.
Rewriting history is not insignificant, it’s the tool of tyrants
It’s certainly working with members of this forum and has been for a number of years.You are spot on. This is exactly what was the goal of the think tank and you're right, it is widening the divisions in society so that the general public ignore the performance of the government and instead, castigates the Labour party for its imagined stance on immigration, racism and the support of terrorists.
It’s white pensioners stomping around with faces like thunder
The wider public is alt-right, you know.
The problem for Labour is that they seem to be chasing electoral success by being just like the Tories. The Tories have taken note that antiwokery is popular and are using that to drive an agenda based on excluding black history from the national myth.You are spot on. This is exactly what was the goal of the think tank and you're right, it is widening the divisions in society so that the general public ignore the performance of the government and instead, castigates the Labour party for its imagined stance on immigration, racism and the support of terrorists.
And that is the point - the wider public does not want change...
Personally speaking, change makes me very anxious and I'm sure I'm not alone in that.