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Stuff - why on earth do we have so much stuff?

That halves the value on ebay and she will nothing proper to send it in.

My gran wasn't an ebay sort of person. A thing was used till it could be used no more, or given away. But as you say, original packaging is great for selling and that's why I've empty boxes galore!
 
I grew up in a non-clutter house (six people crammed into what was essentially a two-bedroom plus box room house, with only one habitable living room). Anything not put away was thrown away by my mother. A reaction to that is my excuse for accumulating shedloads of gubbins. Well, that, and the fact that Mrs H will never throw anything away. If there's no obvious use for it, it gets put in the loft and forgotten about.

If/when we downsize, it'll be a massive task to de-clutter, so we'll probably never move.
 
In my view it’s very simple.

If you don’t use it you don’t need it.

The exceptions are my records. Everything else I own is used regularly. All of my stuff with the exception of the hifi, records and 3 of my guitars are in 2 wardrobes and a bedside cabinet. There are 3 guitars in a wardrobe. I also have a “clear-out” every year.

Mrs S sees things differently. Not much gets thrown away as it might be needed one day. I’ve been waiting for that day for years......
 
In my view it’s very simple.

If you don’t use it you don’t need it.
But it's not about need. I spend weeks on end living in hotels for work. That teaches you what you need. When I'm not working I spend a lot of time in the mountains or cycling. Again, one bag. However there are other things that I like doing. 25 years ago I bought a Lister D stationary engine. 1944, a little bit of history. Came from a farm in Spalding. Got it running and one day I'll build a trolley for that. I didn't have a workshop, it sat in my dad's garage for 20 years. It then sat in mine for 5. I've finally built a trolley and I'm trying again to get it to run. Now in any rational world I should have sold it or given it away, it has no use in the modern world but it's an interesting thing.

The world would be a dull place if we only kept things that we need.
 
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I appreciate all the people that buy the stuff I don't buy which keeps people employed and makes the world go round. ...If the world was full of just people like me every fast food restaurant & shopping mall would go out of business.
 
I have five drills. Why do I have five drills?
2 cordless (one with a slipping clutch that is still useful for light work).
1 pillar drill.
2 x 240V (1 of them for really rough/dirty work, or lending out).
I heavy percussion drill (our bricks have granite chips in them!).
1 x 12V mini drill (for PCB work).
1 hand drill.
1 brace (and bits).
But I do have 4 routers.
 
It’s actually quite hard to get rid of it. I’m enduring an enforced downsize trying to get down to one modest car, record player, some pictures, a few books and some clothes. It seems an almost insurmountable task.
 
I appreciate all the people that buy the stuff I don't buy which keeps people employed and makes the world go round. ...If the world was full of just people like me every fast food restaurant & shopping mall would go out of business.

There's a thought :)

I've met lots people who spend all their time and energy on jobs they hate just so they can buy expensive crap they don't need.

Would the world stop turning if they stopped...?
 
But it's not about need. I spend weeks on end living in hotels for work. That teaches you what you need. When I'm not working I spend a lot of time in the mountains or cycling. Again, one bag. However there are other things that I like doing. 25 years ago I bought a Lister D stationary engine. 1944, a little bit of history. Came from a farm in Spalding. Got it running and one day I'll build a trolley for that. I didn't have a workshop, it sat in my dad's garage for 20 years. It then sat in mine for 5. I've finally built a trolley and I'm trying again to get it to run. Now in any rational world I should have sold it or given it away, it has no use in the modern world but it's an interesting thing.

The world would be a dull place if we only kept things that we need.
Careful! They breed you know. Farm worker friend of mine, lives in tied cottage, acquired a nice Lister. Got it running with his Dad to help. Within 2 years suddenly there are 4 of them!
 
Cook Books definitely come in this category. I think a lot of mine will end up back in the charity shops I bought them in
 
So the mistake I made was to move to a bungalow with a big garden . I gave me space to put up a shed .
3 years later I have 4 sheds the smallest of which is 12x8 ft , a pottery studio ( 4m x 5m ), a double garage (5m x 6m ) Funny thing is they are all full to the rafters with stuff which will come in useful if only I live long enough. Really dumb thing is I ended up building the crossovers and wiring up my Ergo nines on the dining room . Still it was nice and warm to do so.
Certain that when I am no longer inhabit the planet most of the contents will end up as landfill.
It all comes down to how you live your life. I have multiple hobbies and interests so have an eclectic collection of stuff for each . I occasionally really envy the single minded individuals who like only one hobby.
 
The answer is to move house. It really concentrates the mind and makes you face those "do I really need to keep this?" decisions.

Agree, however, it’s a bloody expensive way of having a clear out! I’ve got to get rid of lots of stuff this year, a barn and a garage full of rubbish really. Think I’ll weigh in any metal and a big bonfire for everything else.
 
Basically if you don’t do it in life, some other poor sod will have to do it when you’re gone.

I can't emphasise this enough, as I'm currently going through my parents' house. My mother even joked that my father 'never throws anything away'. And indeed, peak hoardings discovered include: the backing board and some attachments from an old consumer unit; control panel from a Hotpoint washing machine; boxes of electrical guff including countless decommissioned cables, wires, switches and plugs; a dozen suitcases; everything legitimately collected from air travel and hotel rooms including scores of never used cleansing wipes (dried out), pens, pads, paper, cosmetic bags, matches. And on and on it goes, fifty years of shite.

If you love your kids or those who are going to land this rotten task when you're gone, have some compassion and clear your own detritus.
 
I guess the question I didn't consider is whether having 'too' much stuff is a bad thing per se. Can it simply be what it is? Or is it a bad thing or a problem, rather?

Fwiw, my gran's flat definitely wasn't minimalist in terms of stuff but it wasn't indulgent either. As for me, the main culprits of excess stuff are electronics/pleasure stuff:

5 x guitars (2 acoustic, 2 electric and 1 bass guitar)
3 x guitar amps (2 electric and 1 bass amp)
Lots of guitar accessories
3 x bikes
Lots of bike accessories
2 x mac minis
1 Macbook Air
1 x Windows PC
1 x Windows laptop
Lots of computer accessories
6 x pairs of speakers
2 x blu ray players
1 x DVD player
2 x AV Receivers
1 x TT
3 x amplifiers
8 x remote controls
2 x big headphones
2 x earphones
7 x watches
Lots of cables in use
Lots and lots of cables not in use
Lots and lots of LPs
Lots and lots of CDs
Lots of user manuals
Lots of empty boxes that the stuff came in

If I lived by my gran's standards I'd probably only have half the stuff I currently own if not a lot less. If I lived by my gran's standards, I'd probably only have:
1 or 2 guitars
1 or 2 guitar amps
1 x bike
1 x simple all-in-one stereo in the corner of my living room, possibly a Naim Mu-so (plus a small micro stereo in bedroom at a push)
1 x pair of earphones for on the go listening
1 x pair of headphones
1 x small TV
1 x blu ray player
2 x remote controls
1 x soundbar at a push
1 x laptop
20 x LPs
18 x CDs
2 x DVDs
1 x blu ray disc (Casino Royale that came with the blu ray player)
2 x watches

no empty boxes
no sound absorption panels/bass traps!
no 'back-up' accessories for anything
2 x user manuals for stuff that's no longer in the house

Contentment? No less if not more so.
You forgot to mention the milk bottles and newspapers.
 
You forgot to mention the milk bottles and newspapers.

Yep, my gran would have had a milk bottle in the house at all times and a copy of the Sunday Post, which she'd keep for me so I could get my weekly laughs with The Broons or Our Wullie. Ah, they were the days :)
 
If you love your kids or those who are going to land this rotten task when you're gone, have some compassion and clear your own detritus.

Our two will want all the books, and our elder daughter has already got first dibs on the reference books.

I've finally managed to persuade Mrs H to biff some age-old computer stuff that related to Macs we no longer own, and now the charity shops are open again we can resume the task of offloading clothes that no longer fit, DVDs we no longer watch, and so forth.

At some point we will venture into the loft and examine what we put in there 30-odd years ago 'in case we ever needed it'. The Christmas decs are nearest the loft door (and stayed there last year). Other than that, it's a mixture of old toys, children's books, and a load of gubbins we inherited from Mrs H's mother when she moved house. By way of contrast, all we have from my parents' house is one drinking glass with a picture of a pixie on it, and a small bell in the shape of a Welsh lady.
 
Most of the stuff I keep for 40 years eventually gets used. And if I get rid of anything, I can guarantee I will need it within days!
I'm just about to cut up an old oak table top (30 years old?) to use as the edge trim for the Tannoy cabs I'm making.
 
William Morris said "Have nothing in your house that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful".

Sounds admirable, but he pre-dated internet shopping by a century so easy for him to say :D

We have a small house so the quantity of our possessions is limited by available space, which is not very much. I still feel surrounded by stuff though.

Giving stuff away for nothing can make you feel like a decent human being, especially if you can identify those who need it or will really appreciate it. A nice way to de-clutter.
 
William Morris said "Have nothing in your house that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful".

Sounds admirable, but he pre-dated internet shopping by a century so easy for him to say :D

We have a small house so the quantity of our possessions is limited by available space, which is not very much. I still feel surrounded by stuff though.

Giving stuff away for nothing can make you feel like a decent human being, especially if you can identify those who need it or will really appreciate it. A nice way to de-clutter.
Just packed the Mrs bags...
 


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