Wilson
SCTV half wit
Tell us, the unwashed masses, more of your tête-à-tête with the burning bush on the mountaintop.
Trump Part 20
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Tell us, the unwashed masses, more of your tête-à-tête with the burning bush on the mountaintop.
Dave H.
Revolutionary relativist
Yeah it was actually just a bit of an in-joke, easy to miss if you’re not au fait with Radio 4. The poster I was replying to got it though, so all good.
DonQuixote99
pfm Member
So you don't think Trump had any agency in his rise to office, it was all this 'machinery' at work?
Joe Hutch
Mate of the bloke
Well, kinda-sorta. But it's like saying 'there's no point voting for Attlee; it'll only lead to 13 years of Tory misrule'.
tuga
Legal Alien
He was the perfect (s)tool. Brazen, outspoken, obnoxious, rude, lying, self-made, famous, TV-star, white, male, racist, bigot, populist... Many people either identify with his character/posture or wannabee.
Some even thought that being a "successful" businessperson gave him the right skills for governing the nation...
I don't think that he should be given any credit for getting where he got, all he had to do was "play" himself. A free-wheelin' puppet fool. Pinocchio?
SteveS1
I heard that, pardon?
He wasn't even that. A line of attack that has been used too little imo. Entitled brat given a vast fortune that he quickly turned into less of one. Even losing money owning a casino and now in hock to foreigners, mainly US adversaries - great job, what a patriot.
tonerei
pfm Member
That man is very convincing. Hopefully T time is up soon.
tuga
Legal Alien
I agree.
Unfortunately it's not the actual actions and results that matter to the electorate but the image that has been sold to them, and the opullence.
Our society has been trained to worship people who display wealth and social success, more so if their plain-n-vulgar (football players, rappers and pop singers, reality-show stars)... Tabloid staple.
MikeMA
pfm Member
This made me laugh almost as much as the original spoof. Is it a spoof on a spoof? Or did people really take the original that seriously? We need the facts! I want a Fact Check on this Fact Check.
Sue Pertwee-Tyr
Accuphase all the way down
So you need to change the machinery. But I think you need to ask yourself: Is that more or less likely to be possible under Trump or Biden? Even if you think Biden isn't the man for the job (and I'd agree), Biden is the man who can help create the conditions so the man for the job is electable in a few years.
Tactics vs strategy. Biden is tactics.
Decent people sitting on their hands rather than voting is what brought us Trump, and the current Tory establishment in the UK.
Nick_G
pfm Member
To quote the Doctor:
"Sometimes the only choices you have are bad ones, but you still have to choose."
I know which one I'd choose.
claire.foxx
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Enough with the false dichotomies. I never said don’t vote I said ‘hold your nose while voting’. I can’t believe someone asked me if I preferred the fast lane or the slow lane to fascism, and that sums liberal/centrist thinking nicely; a lot of ppl are perfectly happy with that — just as it’s not Trump.
Yes, his administration has had a sustained attack that made it feel deeply personal these past 4 years, especially after 8 years of opening up and being less afraid to be who we are under Obama — now the Trump administration emboldened and funded right wing global disinformation attacks and tried to weaponise our existence in a nonexistent culture war. It’s radicalised a lot of my ppl, so rollbacks of only those Trump’s executive orders will be personally welcome & reason enough to go out and vote the **** out, but so much of what needs doing is beyond what voting for white saviours can achieve. Politics is slow, it favours particular groups and we’re already out of time on a lot of issues now.
Yes, his administration has had a sustained attack that made it feel deeply personal these past 4 years, especially after 8 years of opening up and being less afraid to be who we are under Obama — now the Trump administration emboldened and funded right wing global disinformation attacks and tried to weaponise our existence in a nonexistent culture war. It’s radicalised a lot of my ppl, so rollbacks of only those Trump’s executive orders will be personally welcome & reason enough to go out and vote the **** out, but so much of what needs doing is beyond what voting for white saviours can achieve. Politics is slow, it favours particular groups and we’re already out of time on a lot of issues now.
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awkwardbydesign
Officially Awesome
I must have missed your answer to the current problem with the US system*. The one that doesn't involve poverty and death on a large scale while the change is happening. Please direct me to the post(s) where you detailed this.
*And world system, of course.
claire.foxx
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I don’t think any solution is possible without first giving back the land to the remaining tribes and representatives of the 1st nation & indigenous peoples it was stolen from & spending our trillions of capital and wealth on restoring the land, the environment & making reparations & ensuring they have no impediments to future land stewardship.
As opposed to the poverty and death that has and is occurring while the status quo is maintained/entrenched. Why is it incumbent upon on the poor and dying to ensure that those who are not doing so are unaffected by any social/economic revolution? The latter group (us) haven't given much of a monkey's toss for the former, historically or currently.
jackbarron
Chelsea, London
I think these are parked in Chelsea, near The Thames. They're just down the road from a former doss-house where the very first UK Narcotics Anomymous meeting took place in 1983.
Strange world. Nice cars owened by somebody with a bit of a sense of humour.
Jack
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matthewr
spɹɐʍʞɔɐq spɹoɔǝɹ ɹnoʎ sʎɐld
"Donald Trump was on the phone, and he was talking about dying. It was Saturday, October 3, and while his doctor had told the outside world that the president’s symptoms were nothing to worry about, Trump, cocooned in his suite at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland, was telling those close to him something very different.
“I could be one of the diers,” he said."
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/10/donald-trump-covid-19-white-house.html
“I could be one of the diers,” he said."
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/10/donald-trump-covid-19-white-house.html
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