TheDecameron
Unicorns fart glitter.
That’s interesting, didn’t know about ticket allocation and it’s 30 years since I’ve been. I had assumed that there was a last night audience which was different from the regular season attendees.
BBC - the "last straw".
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Not everyone is rich and privileged enough to go to rock concerts Arkless. Poor middle-class kids like me, who were cruelly forced to go to school and study and then to University while our working-class counterparts were earning good money, driving fancy cars, smoking dope and shagging, we can’t afford £100 for a Rolling Stones gig, not to mention another couple of hundred for drugs and merchandise, or a grand for a season ticket for the footie. No, all we can afford is classical music, same old tunes knocked out by old men on old decrepit instruments that don’t even have amplifiers. But do I begrudge the privileged, rich masses their rock music and football just because I lack working class cultural credentials?I think you have added 2 + 2 and got 5 there... I would expect them to be fans of classical music.. or maybe "fans"...
If one is rather "U" then a certain amount of attendances of "the ballet", proms, the odd poetry reading, is de rigueur to show ones cultural credentials at the hunt ball piss up.... and who knows.. many probably are capable of simultaneously actually liking it
stephen bennett
Mr Enigma
Ian M
pfm Member
Most of them seem to have a job on this forum.
awkwardbydesign
Officially Awesome
The only time I found Ben Elton (as a standup) remotely funny was railing against the idea of adding a 4th lane to the M25. Pulled a never ending black bin liner from an over full swing bin, comparing the two. Even that was London-centric.
I find Elton’s political humour the weakest of his work. It all seems awkwardly shoehorned. What’s worse is that he appears to know this, as it’s delivered with a knowing wink (even in Upstart Crow you can almost hear Elton, who wrote it, off stage going “eh? eh? bit of topical politics in your Tudor sitcom!”)
Jim Audiomisc
pfm Member
Not sure of the rules wrt getting into the Last Night these days. But I only managed to get tickets once when it was either a lottery or a season ticket being the way 'in'. When I did go I enjoyed singing along with everyone else. The second half of the Last Night is a party for people who've enjoyed going to Proms. People from all over the world. Not a political rally.
Colin Barron
pfm Member
Would they be the same working class counterparts who left school at 15 and will retire on only a state pension at 66?
Darth Vader
From the Dark Side
Thats me bro'. Left sec mod at 15 with 6 'O' Levels one was self taught! I did retire at 66 and get a state pension, a teachers pension and a nice fat SIPP.
I used go to the proms when I lived in London and love all sorts of music including opera, serious (classical type) music and jazz plus a lot of other stuff.
There is a lot more to life than what you were born into.
Cheers,
DV
Jim Audiomisc
pfm Member
Although the reasons are bad, the response of the BBC in rebroadcasting selected past Proms was a good idea. The R3 examples are all still available. Some examples go back into the 1990s. As a result you can probably hear them in better quality now via iPlayer than you could when they were first broadcast!
The TV rebroadcast of the original Simon Bolivar Orch Prom was also one I was particularly pleased to see rebroadcast.
The TV rebroadcast of the original Simon Bolivar Orch Prom was also one I was particularly pleased to see rebroadcast.
Big Tabs
looking backwards, going forwards
We saw Alexei Sayle on his last tour.
I read a few of his books and the BBC radio 4 show is very funny and surreal.
The tour was bits of the radio show peppered with current political situation rants.
The show (at Nottingham Playhouse) was disappointing, and felt thrown together.
As for the Proms. I have never seen it, although I am aware of it.
For posh folk I have always thought.
Barrymagrec
pfm Member
Not at all, when Henry wood started them back in 1895 they were to give ordinary people the chance to hear classical and modern music. The remit has not changed.
The last night shenannigans is just an aberration started by Malcolm Sargent in the fifties.
Dave H.
Revolutionary relativist
Yeah the show in Birmingham (I expect within a couple of days of the Notts gig) had a similar slightly cobbled together feel, but it was still quite fun.
Saw Rob Newman in Nottingham, I think at the playhouse (or was that David Sedaris?) last year too. That was ace.
Big Tabs
looking backwards, going forwards
Quite a difference twixt Newman and Sedaris... (at least 12")
We saw Sedaris in Nottm. years ago. He was hilarious, I was in stitches. His books make me hoot out loud.
Tony L
Administrator
It is a real shame classical music in general has that reputation as it puts a lot of people off. Whilst I’m obviously quite frightfully posh myself I just went to the Proms in jeans and a t-shirt, just as I go anywhere, and didn’t feel out of place at all. The queue for the standing area (no booking tickets for the cheap areas) was always full of nice friendly people IME and the atmosphere inside great. As I say I’ve never been to the last night, or wanted to go to it, but the proper stuff is great and very user-friendly (assuming you are prepared to wait in a queue for an hour or two to get in as it is first come first served and good stuff is over-subscribed). Good art always attracts good people and class should never be a driver here, and I’m sure it isn’t beyond maybe a bit of toffery on the last night.
TheDecameron
Unicorns fart glitter.
The price of a seat at a Premier League match is no different to one at Covent Garden.
Big Tabs
looking backwards, going forwards
I love classical music, it is not that that I regarded as posh when younger.
It was the London-centric aspect of the proms.
I know better now of course.
Dave H.
Revolutionary relativist
Ha, yeah, slight potential confusion over venue, not who was performing - I went to see both, in theatre sorts of places. But one venue was enormous, and just by Rock City, and the other was slightly smaller, and somewhat less just by Rock City.