Anon, anon, anon.
Looking at it another way, Brexit is no more than what Labour was campaigning for in 1983, so left-wingers should surely be rejoicing.
Well, Corbyn was a fan.
Anon, anon, anon.
Looking at it another way, Brexit is no more than what Labour was campaigning for in 1983, so left-wingers should surely be rejoicing.
Even the hard of thinking got the drift from the vote Leave campaign- you could say it was specifically written for that target audience.
In the first instance we were going to save a shed load of money the EU was taking from us for nothing in return ( we pays in more than we gets out), we would be freed from their rules ( tellin us what to do, like obeying the European Court of Human Rights) and we would be free to trade with anyone ( just as we’ve always been).
In other words thing were going to be better the moment we left and not only that but the EU was so relatively weak compared with us that they would accede to any preferential trade deal we demanded from them ( it’ll be the easiest deal in history).
Even the hard of thinking got the drift from the vote Leave campaign- you could say it was specifically written for that target audience.
In the first instance we were going to save a shed load of money the EU was taking from us for nothing in return ( we pays in more than we gets out), we would be freed from their rules ( tellin us what to do, like obeying the European Court of Human Rights) and we would be free to trade with anyone ( just as we’ve always been).
In other words thing were going to be better the moment we left and not only that but the EU was so relatively weak compared with us that they would accede to any preferential trade deal we demanded from them ( it’ll be the easiest deal in history).
Just to be clear for you, Col. You lot don’t upset me in the slightest, I just wonder at how, what I assume to be adult blokes, can be so pathetic.I'd like this, but Brian might get upset that "the gang" are acting in concert again, so I won't.
I don’t care how it looks. Maybe if you take a comment at face value rather than automatically assuming some ‘badness’ in there. The hard remainers are far closer to being an extremist than I am.Maybe that was a little harsh, but try to see it from a wider point of view. Of course people didn't have a specific deal in mind, but there were many different reasons for people voting to leave the EU. Therefore it is a logical fallacy to conclude that all of them voted automatically for the hardest of Brexits and no deal. They expected the government to sort out the negotiations and the final deal.
Now you presumably really believe this, but as Sue Pertwee-Tyr says, to others it looks kind of extremist, and just the sort of thing the nutjob Tories would come out with. Not trying to be nasty, but just telling you how it looks.
I see very clearly, thank you.If you can't see it then that's not my problem Brian. I can't help any further.
English Breakfast is far superior...I've not really drilled into those statistics, but couldn't that be people who have moved already, and are simply just panicking about their rights vaporising?
e.g. those beer and chips expats who have suddenly smelt the coffee (or PG Tips)
Double-edged sword, I’d say.Is this a positive effect (remoaners abandoning ship)?
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https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ating-to-eu-has-risen-by-30-since-brexit-vote
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We try hard and have a peerless example in yourself to emulate.I just wonder at how, what I assume to be adult blokes, can be so pathetic.
Christ, what fantasy bollocks cr4p.Have you watched the new "Let’s Get Going" video by The Sunlit Uplands?
Looks promising... It'll be a top-of-the-charts hit.
In other words, we get to see what it’s really like after January 1st. It’ll be all fur coat and no knickers• New trading relations ✓ (that is an inevitability; better trading relations? unlikely)
• Preparing for a new approach to trading with EU ✓ (more paperwork, delays at customs and taxes? sounds bad)
The goverment will ensure that:
• Exporters can take advantage of new trade agreements (what does "take advantage" mean? as a member of the EU the UK already had the best deals it could possibly get without selling itself)
• Industry regulations allow small businesses to thrive (does this mean lower corporate-taxes, environmental de-regulation and loss of rights for workers?)
• Immigration system that suits the needs of our economy (possible, but likely? the economy post Covid is a different beast anyway...wait and see)
• The UK fishing industry takes back control of UK waters (isn't populism nice?)
I see very clearly, thank you.
You may not agree but I suspect what I’m saying finally got through rather than appearing I lost my marbles, but it’s easier to move on than say so. Fine by me.
'No deal' is the only Brexit on offer at the moment. Bino colony status is not leaving the ECJ dictatorship.I don't know how your thought processes arrived at the conclusion that all leavers wanted no deal Brian, but it doesn't change the fact that the conclusion is still bonkers. You may not agree, but there we have it.
Still, at least Boris & his droogs are on board with it.
That's not what I said, there was an obvious context as it was a reply to a post, but anyway, it's what I've come to expect from you, so there we have it, yes.I don't know how your thought processes arrived at the conclusion that all leavers wanted no deal Brian, but it doesn't change the fact that the conclusion is still bonkers. You may not agree, but there we have it.
Still, at least Boris & his droogs are on board with it.