Winter election III
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Seeing as many of the allegations are coming from within Labour itself, Margaret Hodge for example, it really isn't is it? Labour are being investigated, is that made up also?
That is some seriously skewed logic, it may disappear when he's gone for other reasons. He isn't the Labour Party, just the leader of it.
TheDecameron
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C4 News interviews voters in Bolsover, including traditional Labour voters who would be voting Conservative. One young woman said “I’m bored with Brexit, I’m voting for Boris to get it sorted”. She’s bored with Brexit and handing her vote to Johnson. We are f****ed.
In Hartlepool, working class racists are running the Brexit Party campaign to get Squire Tice elected. It’s utterly depressing. We’ll find out on Friday how far the Northern Labour vote has been captured by Farage and Johnson.
In Hartlepool, working class racists are running the Brexit Party campaign to get Squire Tice elected. It’s utterly depressing. We’ll find out on Friday how far the Northern Labour vote has been captured by Farage and Johnson.
Sue Pertwee-Tyr
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The fact of an investigation into a claim of antisemitism is not itself evidence of the truth of the claim.
There will be a degree of probable cause, a degree of 'evidence' for an investigation to commence. Obviously there is absolutely nothing to worry about as Labour is completely innocent of all charges & everything is made up by those nasty media people & anti JC MPs.
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Just as this was, under Labour in 2000.
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"She fell back on the NHS and still believed in it.
"She always felt it was understaffed, underfunded and the doctors overworked but she never imagined it could come to this. The government say they are dealing with the situation but they obviously are not.">>>
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2000/jun/02/futureofthenhs.health
It’s nothing new nor unique to current administration.
It’s just awful that it shows little sign of abating. It’s made worse by scum making propaganda and capital out of it.
ks.234
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Is IPSO a nasty anti JC thing too?
https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/...vist-s-accuracy-complaint-against-jc-1.493698
TheDecameron
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Johnson ‘I apologise to people who have had a terrible experience with the NHS’. The sly git. He sends the vile little Hancock to the hospital as his meat shield and Matt emotes like a bad end of the pier actor- “I know what it feels like”. Standing in as Johnson’s auxiliary conscience.
Sue Pertwee-Tyr
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Not necessarily; some organisations are duty bound to investigate complaints, with only limited grounds not to do so. ‘No smoke without fire’ eh?
The complaint was against the Jewish Chronicle? They are just a small part in the wider conspiracy obvs.
Not sure that is true in this case.
ks.234
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gassor
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The EHRC has begun its investigation not on a whim, but because it has come across sufficient evidence to suspect that the law might have been broken. The criteria for such an investigation are set out in Equality Act 2006.
The EHRC are obviously part of this wider conspiracy, it is the only logical conclusion
maxflinn
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The thousands of activists trawling the social media accounts of Labour Party members looking for anything even remotely anti-Semitic are not looking at the social media accounts of members of the other political parties.
The reason? They're all solidly pro-Israel.
Corbyn isn't, which is why it's his party that's been targeted. A very Israel-friendly, right-wing, pro-neoliberal media is very happy to help the rump of Israel-friendly, right-wing, pro-neoliberal Labour MPs - like Hodge, spread the smears and fan the flames.
As was made clear even to the Jewish leader of Labour, you don't get by easy if you support the Palestinian struggle:
From April 2015
How Ed Miliband lost the Jewish vote
This week, a poll for the Jewish -Chronicle found that 69 per cent of Jews intend to vote Tory next month, with Labour trailing on only 22 per cent. Moreover, while 64 per cent said David Cameron had the best attitude towards British Jewry, only 13 per cent picked Miliband as the best supporter of the community. The Jewish Chronicle poll found 73 per cent of Jews said the parties’ approach toward Israel and the Middle East was ‘very’ or ‘quite’ important in determining how they would vote, and by 65 to 10 per cent Cameron led Miliband on having the best attitude.
Community activists believe Miliband’s position on Israel has become such a sticking point that many Jews who traditionally vote Labour can’t bring themselves to do so. One said: ‘They have been forced to choose between their party and their support for Israel in a way they never thought they would be.’ Some have already made that choice: last autumn, Maureen Lipman declared that, for the first time in five decades, she wouldn’t be voting Labour. At the same time, Kate Bearman, a former director of Labour Friends of Israel, resigned her party membership.
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I'm sorry, but to argue that Israel has not been a massive issue for the same sections of Britain's Jewish community since literally the most pro-Palestinian MP in the country took control of Labour is just disingenuous.
The facts are there. Even Labour's Jewish leader lost support from the Jewish community over his relatively (in comparison to the Tories, Blair etc) balanced approach to Israel/Palestine.
Corbyn, long the champion of Palestinian rights, was a target from the word go. I said in 2015 he'd be relentlessly attacked in this way and it has come to pass. There is no mystery why it has happened, and it is nothing to do with anti-Semitism.
eternumviti
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So, to contract my earlier question, why is JC so obsessed by Israel?
ff1d1l
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Because he's the subject of a witch hunt over it.
maxflinn
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He isn't.
Many Labour MPs are members of Labour Friends of Israel. Why are they so obsessed with Israel?
gassor
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So the EHRC will not find very much evidence of anti-semitism, and the many, many examples of it that have surfaced are mainly fake and orchestrated by the pro-Israel lobby? Even when Corbyn says he is sorry about what has happened in regard to anti-semitism in the party, or when John McDonnell apologises to the Jewish community “for the suffering we have inflicted on them” or when Jon Lansman says "Labour has a widespread problem with antisemitism" they really haven't a clue what they are talking about.
What exactly gives you such a clear-sighted view of the internal workings of the Labour Party more than the above leading lights of the party?
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