Raspberry Pi Question
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ks.234
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Sorry. All I meant was looking at web pages, if I’m looking at pfm for instance, it can take some time to go from one page to another, and if I go to a different page, it can take an age until I can type a decent rant, by which time I’ve forgotten what it was that made me so mad in the first place!
Guess first thing to try is Ethernet connection rather than WiFi?
whatsnext
Naimless
Yes ethernet is more reliable. What OS and browser are you using?
I use an rPi 2 with Ubuntu and Firefox. It can be slowish but not enough to complain.
Compared to a PC, even a decent one from 7+yrs ago, the Raspberry Pi is lower powered, and thus is difficult to be as snappy when doing everyday stuff like browsing.
https://www.puffin.com/raspberry-pi/ Looks interesting...
https://www.puffin.com/raspberry-pi/ Looks interesting...
ks.234
Half way to Infinity
Most. On Chromium, would something like Firefox speed things up?
Darth Vader
From the Dark Side
What screen resolution are you using? Try 800*600 and see if thats any faster.
Cheers,
DV
Cheers,
DV
cubastreet
Espresso Fiend
Interesting. Sometimes I need to use a rpi3 for internet and that's painfully slow, I thought a 4 with 4GB would be fine. I was even considering upgrading for that purpose.
I don't think that's all that much difference in, between a pi 4 and my old phone , which handles web browsing ok.
I don't think that's all that much difference in, between a pi 4 and my old phone , which handles web browsing ok.
misterdog
Not the canine kind
If you have your Pi 4 in a case you may have thermal throttling issues as they run hot.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/07/22/raspberry_pi_4_too_hot_to_handle/
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/07/22/raspberry_pi_4_too_hot_to_handle/
ks.234
Half way to Infinity
I do have a case, but it’s an old one that was used with a dac hat that I’ve dremeled to death to take the new pi.....lots of, er, ventilation!
ks.234
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I really am starting from nothing here. I just want to understand the basics of how a computer works. For example, while I'm happy to hit the download button on Firefox to download it onto my Mac or PC and let my Mac or PC do all the work, on the Pi i need to understand something about 'packages' to enable it to work. I'm hoping that if I can get Firefox onto my Pi/Raspberian/Debian I will have learned a little of the basics about computery things along the way.
(anyone wanna buy a Mac Air???)
Because I have Pi streamers all over the house and I'd like to be able to play with them with a bit more confidence
Man in a van
pfm Member
One thing to learn is "google foo"
In a browser type "firefox on raspbian buster"
and look for a recent answer
the problem with searching t'internet is the age of the replies, things go out of date quickly.
It helps if one has access to another computer. Use one as a search/reading aid and do the work on the other.
When I''m doing stuff on my rpi I utilise a Windows 10 Desktop and connect with the pi via SSH using Putty or remote desktop using VNC.
And remember to make a note (copy and paste) of anything important, saves looking for it again.
If using a rpi only, then save info pages as tabs in folders on the browser.
Just sayin
In a browser type "firefox on raspbian buster"
and look for a recent answer
the problem with searching t'internet is the age of the replies, things go out of date quickly.
It helps if one has access to another computer. Use one as a search/reading aid and do the work on the other.
When I''m doing stuff on my rpi I utilise a Windows 10 Desktop and connect with the pi via SSH using Putty or remote desktop using VNC.
And remember to make a note (copy and paste) of anything important, saves looking for it again.
If using a rpi only, then save info pages as tabs in folders on the browser.
Just sayin
Darth Vader
From the Dark Side
If that really is the case buy yourself one of many books about programming the Pi in Python. A good book will also recommend projects from simple flashing lights to an exploring robot. You'll find once you get started that there are several cheap electronic kits for Pi experimentation and if you don't already you'll handle discreet electronic components such as resistors, leds, photocells, buzzers, switches etc. If you build a robot you will even find a use for a range detector!
The thing is that tiny Pi and its Linux O/S has a wealth of features and uses and a vast library of stuff that you can spend several lifetimes exploring. Thats why once someone has an understanding and good grasp they tend to specialise in a particular area of interest or in my case I followed the money.
To really really really understand a digital computer you need a thorough knowledge of the electronics the machines memory map and an understanding of machine code (the CPU instruction set) that drives the hardware, accesses the ports and handles the CPU interrupts.
Python (named after 'Monty Pythons Flying Circus') is an easy to learn interpreted computer language that is used extensively in Linux but don't underestimate how powerful it can be with added libraries.
Cheers,
DV
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ks.234
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Just for information, I’ve updated everything, gone direct Ethernet connection, shouted at the monitor and it seems quite a bit quicker now. Every now and then it just stops for something or other, a little think maybe, but much more useable. Many thanks to everyone, especially Ronnie.
Paul R
pfm Member
Try it with Javascript disabled and an ad-blocker, see if the user experience becomes noticeably faster. Obviously then turn everything back on...
It's a disappointing fact of the modern consumer world that ever more CPU cycles are spent not being productive. Fight back, go to the terminal and start learning there.
It's a disappointing fact of the modern consumer world that ever more CPU cycles are spent not being productive. Fight back, go to the terminal and start learning there.
ks.234
Half way to Infinity
Already have an adblocker, but not tried disabling JavaScript. I’ll try it tomorrow. Cheers.
ks.234
Half way to Infinity
Just for information I have found a solution to poor/slow performance by adjusting the CPU/GPU split by turning down the GPU memory.
If I want to watch video or mess about with graphics I've got iPad and laptop, so more CPU seems to make the Pi a lot easier, more responsive.
If I want to watch video or mess about with graphics I've got iPad and laptop, so more CPU seems to make the Pi a lot easier, more responsive.