heidcase music
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It's worth trying both, to my ears its better to connect the speaker cable to the high frequency and use a solid core cable as a jumper to the bass switch them around and you will hear a difference
Should I bi-wire my speakers?
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Teddy Ray
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Yep!
It's just not right. How can you cope with none compliance with what is reasonable?
As long as you don't say it sounds better, i will defend your right to wire the speakers anyway you wish.
They must sound slightly different, but it's clearly not audible.
cobblers, in my h opinion. How can it sound different? Mine go into the bass first but there's no good reason for that.
per flemming
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Mr Pig is spot on right
Bi-wire is the hifi humbug of two decades and its providing two things, more sales for cable manufacturers and a degraded sound for end users
Bi-wire is the hifi humbug of two decades and its providing two things, more sales for cable manufacturers and a degraded sound for end users
And a cheap and instant upgrade. I did it. Now not so much.
Except it's costing you more to get right back to where you started.
It's very simple. You just solder two sets of plugs on the ends of the cable so that they can plug into the two sockets on the speakers:
Don't forget to remove the link plates on the speakers.
It's very easy to do with Naim speaker plugs as they have a slot on the end of the pin. With some plugs and heavy cables it will be impossible to do properly.
Don't forget to remove the link plates on the speakers.
It's very easy to do with Naim speaker plugs as they have a slot on the end of the pin. With some plugs and heavy cables it will be impossible to do properly.
MVV
pfm Member
Imagine a speaker plug soldered at right angles to the end of the speaker cable. Then another soldered at a right angle 3cm below it making an F shape.
The top one plugs into the top hole and the bottom into the bottom hole. Sounds no different to a jumper but feels like it does which is the same thing really.
Mr Pig beat me to it but he used a picture which is cheating.
MVV
pfm Member
Placebo Domingo? I loved that Nissan Dormobile one he did!
The point is that it's not worse and it's cheaper.
With jumpers one socket has the cable plugged straight into it. The other has a plug and a screw connection so an extra connection relative to the other socket. I'm not saying that's a disaster but it's not better than the 'F' plugs and in theory at least the 'F' plugs win.
It's very easy to find out how either jumper leads or connector plates sound. Swap the incoming cable between the bass to treble sockets. I tried that years ago and the result was the 'F' plugs!
Quoting Bruno Putzeys:
Speakers are nonlinear things, so a speaker's back EMF is distorted. If you use biwiring on a very low-impedance amp you can stop distortion generated in, say the woofer, from electrically cross-talking into the tweeter. With moderate impedance amps you can only get the same result with biamping. I think this is the only sensible explanation why biwiring sometimes sounds different. I'm not saying the effect is very big but it's hard to argue that it is always inaudible.
A lot is being said about sense or nonsense of biwiring but what it is about is that loudspeakers are nonlinear. If the woofer draws a distorted current, biwiring can prevent this current from causing distortion in the voltage going to the tweeter. What it takes is an amplifier with output impedance much lower than that of the speaker cable. Running two separate cables between the amp and speaker will make a difference. Since the amplifier feedback senses exactly where the speaker cable is connected, you can just connect two sets at the same point and be certain that the common impedance between the HF/LF current loops is just the amplifier's output impedance.
He is the John Westlake of Class D amplifiers and certainly known for his dislike of foo in audio
Speakers are nonlinear things, so a speaker's back EMF is distorted. If you use biwiring on a very low-impedance amp you can stop distortion generated in, say the woofer, from electrically cross-talking into the tweeter. With moderate impedance amps you can only get the same result with biamping. I think this is the only sensible explanation why biwiring sometimes sounds different. I'm not saying the effect is very big but it's hard to argue that it is always inaudible.
A lot is being said about sense or nonsense of biwiring but what it is about is that loudspeakers are nonlinear. If the woofer draws a distorted current, biwiring can prevent this current from causing distortion in the voltage going to the tweeter. What it takes is an amplifier with output impedance much lower than that of the speaker cable. Running two separate cables between the amp and speaker will make a difference. Since the amplifier feedback senses exactly where the speaker cable is connected, you can just connect two sets at the same point and be certain that the common impedance between the HF/LF current loops is just the amplifier's output impedance.
He is the John Westlake of Class D amplifiers and certainly known for his dislike of foo in audio