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    Devialet. Start where s/h, and would I like it at all?

    Wouldn’t even think about buying a Devialet product. That’s as a 250 Pro owner for many years (sitting unused mostly). It’s nothing to do with sound or looks - both are stunning. It’s the company - basically started out great but sold to a lifestyle billionaire who essentially killed it dead...
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    Who's Heard the Dutch & Dutch Speakers

    Not really, because I asked privately out of curiosity, and taking the answer on face value there was nothing untoward. It’s somewhat moot anyway since they’re gone, and I don’t think it’s generally good form to paste private conversations on forums, especially when there’s seemingly some...
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    Who's Heard the Dutch & Dutch Speakers

    @Andrew C! Did this trader upset you somehow? It was updated shortly after on the link I clicked on their website. I’m guessing they only reopened today? Have tried to buy plenty of things in the past, in all walks of life, where a listing/advert hasn’t been updated but the items sold. Not...
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    Who's Heard the Dutch & Dutch Speakers

    I guess it would make sense just to call up and find out if interested, no need to trawl through a website for hours? Thats what I plan to do.... (edit: and did, FYI the new cheap 8c’s are gone). FWIW when I was about to push the button on the 8c or the Kii last year, I contacted quite a few...
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    Who's Heard the Dutch & Dutch Speakers

    Haven’t been following Pfm as much lately, but was following this thread on and off. That said, even with a bit of searching I couldn’t fathom what this meant !?
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    Who's Heard the Dutch & Dutch Speakers

    Best to listen in your own space of course but the measurements tell you a fair bit - they can certainly guide whether it’s worth a demo or not, especially with actives where the partnering kit is built in.
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    Seeking advice on speaker/sub options for more bass

    Best thing to do would be measure the room so you know exactly what you’re dealing with. If you like the QC25 sound you can aim for a similar FR but bass isn’t trivial to get right in a room. It may not necessarily be that you need more bass. But it probably is, or rather some more and some less.
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    Superfi liquidation auction

    Unless you’re local getting hold of the goods will be a hassle. So auction markup plus Vat plus no warranty - would only make sense if they go for peanuts but my hunch is will end like eBay. Be interesting just to watch As for why, could have just been a bad business but I guess everything is...
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    Who's Heard the Dutch & Dutch Speakers

    I’m pretty savvy on sound stuff these days - I’m very technical in general but in sound I was a novice and it’s been a long road from box swapping to here and I’ve learnt a lot. So I know a home dem is the only real test (I can easily measure and set filters and evaluate) but I have to trust...
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    Who's Heard the Dutch & Dutch Speakers

    I’ll PM you. Not that it’s a secret - it was a very enjoyable demo in a nice space - but I never said I’d post my findings here and just incase I put my foot in it or say anything controversial.....
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    Who's Heard the Dutch & Dutch Speakers

    It’s possible, we didn’t get into measurements on the day and like I said, neither setup had been measured. We did clear out all PEQs in the 8c but it made little difference. I’d heard the 8c described as ‘narcotic bass’ and a bass ‘you can really feel / shake the house’. On the day it did...
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    Who's Heard the Dutch & Dutch Speakers

    This is a tricky one. I don’t believe both were setup measured, and they were both setup at the same time for obvious reasons. So perhaps not optimal. I also had some biases. And more stupidly, I hadn’t thought about what music to use! Anyway, all I’ll say at this point is the 8c didn’t do what...
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    Who's Heard the Dutch & Dutch Speakers

    Roon have previously posted about this. Qobuz licensing agreements with labels etc don’t allow third parties to have downloadable content. Both Roon and Qobuz (and presumably Tidal) are capable, but the providers don’t have permission, so it’s legal rather than technical.
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    Who's Heard the Dutch & Dutch Speakers

    I’d say the bass and mid clarity on both the actives was better. Quite a bit better. But I’d have to compare at home - I have a tricky room. Both of the actives have cons.... less to do with SQ.
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    Who's Heard the Dutch & Dutch Speakers

    I don’t want to go into too much detail yet (and haven’t got time anyway) but let’s just say I went in with preconceived ideas and things got turned around a bit. Bear in mind this was only a comparative demo in an unfamiliar space but I didn’t really conclude much other than they’re both...


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