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Her Majesty the Queen RIP

Tony L said:
Good feature on C4 News tonight tracking the Queen’s response to national emergencies, tragedies etc over the decades and interviewing those she spoke with. Everything from the Aberfan school disaster through 7/11, Grenfell and the Manchester Arena bombing. She deserves respect for always going to these things early and spending time with victims, often in private. Even appearing at the aftermath of events, e.g. Grenfell, where the government dare not show its face. No secret I’m an anti-monarchist, but I’ll give respect to a person where it is due.
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I’m all for respect but not revisionism. She took 8 days to visit Aberfan and was severely criticised at the time.
 
Somafunk said:
I’m rather surprised they drove from Balmoral to Edinburgh with the Queen in the Coffin/car then further planned journeys, hope the coffin is as well insulated as a yeti cooler, imagine a road accident with queenie sliding along the road?. I wouldn’t be surprised if her actual coffin was flown down to London and held somewhere appropriate before her funeral.
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Police m/cyclist escort all the way, with rolling road closures. ARV support, as well. It will be fine.
 
Appears to me that maximisation of this opportunity to advance the anti ref cause in Scotland is being made.
 
Andrew C! said:
There are lots of folk who wish to pay their respects. I'd proffer that many Scottish folk are ambivalent to the ref either way at this time?
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I have R4 on at the moment... covering Edinburgh...no doubt to me but that it's being used.
 
As I understand it, the Scots want to keep the monarchy post-independence. Which is fair enough, as our current monarch is descended from a Scottish king.
 
Joe Hutch said:
As I understand it, the Scots want to keep the monarchy post-independence. Which is fair enough, as our current monarch is descended from a Scottish king.
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It's an exceedingly tenuous descent! Anne was the last Stuart monarch, and when she died without descendant, the nearest Protestant relative was her first cousin, twice removed, Georg, Elector of Hanover, who became George I, first of the Hanoverian monarchs, of which Victoria was technically the last. She of course married Prince Albert of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, so I think the Germans have a much stronger claim on the British throne. Whether they would want such a poisoned chalice is another matter entirely.
 
tones said:
It's an exceedingly tenuous descent! Anne was the last Stuart monarch, and when she died without descendant, the nearest Protestant relative was her first cousin, twice removed, Georg, Elector of Hanover, who became George I, first of the Hanoverian monarchs, of which Victoria was technically the last. She of course married Prince Albert of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, so I think the Germans have a much stronger claim on the British throne. Whether they would want such a poisoned chalice is another matter entirely.
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They might want to reunite the Glucksberg and Battenberg branches, you never know. A bit like boxers who need to get all the unified belts.
 
Bob McC said:
I’m all for respect but not revisionism. She took 8 days to visit Aberfan and was severely criticised at the time.
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Yes, and the bit about the dry eye.... she found it difficult to show emotion. That was from the crown tv prog though so not sure if that was the entire truth ?
 
Joe Hutch said:
As I understand it, the Scots want to keep the monarchy post-independence. Which is fair enough, as our current monarch is descended from a Scottish king.
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It’s quite amusing to listen to misconceptions about Scottish society, politics, views on the monarchy expressed within the “why-o-why do day hate us so much” demographic. You could almost hear the sound of sphincters relaxing when the dignified and very well conducted ceremonials for the late Queen and her son the King, went off so well in Scotland. It was almost as if to say ‘the Scotch didn’t disgrace us today’.
 
Bob McC said:
I’m all for respect but not revisionism. She took 8 days to visit Aberfan and was severely criticised at the time.
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The way they reported it in the Ch4 documentary "The Queen and her PM's" was that initially she thought it would be counter-productive as she would be the centre of attention and wanted efforts focused on the rescue and recovery mission. She then became frozen by indecision and Wilson pushed her to go. It was reported as one of her biggest regrets and mentioned in the same vein as the death of Diana. She returned to Aberfan on several occasions.
Now whether this contains revisionist alterations I don't know...the documentary is worth a watch and repeats the story of her displeasure with Thatcher on Apartheid sanctions and the divisive nature of her social policies.
 
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Woodface said:
There was a brilliant cartoon in the ‘I’ the other day, “& what do you do?” She asks at the entrance to the pearly gates.
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TheDecameron said:
Not in uniform and considering he’s the one who actually took part in military action, he must have found it humiliating to some extent.
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I read somewhere that he has been given leave to wear uniform. Harry (who also saw active service) has not.
 
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