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A thread to catalogue the eloquence, dignity, diplomacy and wisdom of Boris Johnson: IV VONC

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I sense many votes are actually cast negatively i.e. not tory or not labour.

Nicola on now. Whoever becomes PM, hopefully they’ll agree to her indyref.
As someone pointed out yesterday- if the Tories called an election now, they are projected to lose every one of their remaining seats in Scotland. They tried relentlessly to smear her during Johnson’s relatively short time in office, now she’s going to rid Scotland of them.
 
Starmer "He needs to go completely."
Labour "will bring VONC."

Yes I think he’ll be gone shortly, was listening to woman’s hour this morning and one of the 1922 committee was on, young woman, she sounded quite confident that he’d been gone shortly she also sounded really angry with him.
 
Great piece from James Butler in the London Review of Books:

https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2022/july/johnson-his-fall
A state led by Sunak, Gove or Truss with reforming zeal would be an unpleasant place to live. But it’s also damaging to be governed by intellectually deficient, personally ambitious, corrupt or simply uninterested ministers. Fewer ministers than ever care about their departments, as the internecine vortex of Westminster and dreams of a slot on Question Time suck in most of their attention. This has been especially true since 2016, though the problem is of longer gestation. It doesn’t entirely explain why Britain, after twelve years of Conservative government, is run-down, stagnant, expensive, underpaid, unequal, corrupt, socially fractured, backward-looking, hungry and fearful. But it doesn’t help. It will take far more than dislodging Johnson to change that.
Johnson is merely the most morbid symptom (so far!) of a much deeper rot.
 
As someone pointed out yesterday- if the Tories called an election now, they are projected to lose every one of their remaining seats in Scotland. They tried relentlessly to smear her during Johnson’s relatively short time in office, now she’s going to rid Scotland of them.

Let’s hope so. Live the dream.
 
This will be the interesting thing to watch IMO. Has the penny dropped in the Tory Party that Brexit has totally failed, is an economic disaster, and will always be unworkable, or will they double-down on the Trump/Farage popularism and xenophobia that brought us to this point? They do have the opportunity to dilute and attempt a reversing-out to maybe a Labour-style BINO location.

Ultimately this problem is unsolveable for the Tories. They have to find someway to admit that they (and their voters) were wrong about Brexit so they can get on with trying to fix the damage and solve the remaining problems and they cannot do this while they still have a party (and voter base) full of Brexit Ultras.

Although one advantage the new PM will have is they can blame it all on Boris. Whoever comes next didn't come up with and sign the NIP so they can say "This is a bad deal, but we (by which I mean Boris) signed it and as the Conservative party our first duty is to the rule of law and the international reputation of our country", etc. etc.
 
Although one advantage the new PM will have is they can blame it all on Boris. Whoever comes next didn't come up with and sign the NIP so they can say "This is a bad deal, but we (by which I mean Boris) signed it and as the Conservative party our first duty is to the rule of law and the international reputation of our country", etc. etc.

Agreed, and with Labour so firmly placed on their ambiguity fence of not challenging Brexit the Tories do have some room for manoeuvre here. Likely more than Starmer will give himself.

PS In an act of pure comedy satire James Cleverly is now Education Secretary.
 
A moribund, discredited and soon to reign PM still in control, choosing cabinet appointments and shaping the future in his own image
 
I expect when the new Cabinet names are announced, it'll be a re-run of the Earl of Derby's 'who? who?' Cabinet:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who?_Who?_ministry

Edward Smith-Stanley, 14th Earl of Derby led the "Who? Who?" ministry, a short-lived British Conservative government which was in power for a matter of months in 1852. Lord Derby was Prime Minister and Benjamin Disraeli served as Chancellor of the Exchequer. It marked the first time the protectionist wing of the Conservative Party had taken office since the Corn Laws schism of 1846. It is also called the First Derby–Disraeli ministry.[1]

Early in 1852 Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington, by then very deaf, gave Derby's first government its nickname by shouting "Who? Who?" as the list of inexperienced Cabinet Ministers was read out in the House of Lords.[2][3]
 
What happens to a government when it crosses the Fabricant Horizon?

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Get the Ferengi energy whip.
 
This will be the interesting thing to watch IMO. Has the penny dropped in the Tory Party that Brexit has totally failed, is an economic disaster, and will always be unworkable, or will they double-down on the Trump/Farage popularism and xenophobia that brought us to this point? They do have the opportunity to dilute and attempt a reversing-out to maybe a Labour-style BINO location.

Better for the Lib Dems that the Tory Party stays rabidly Brexit.
At least 48% of the country want a better relationship with the EU.
 
I bet we see a deluded Johnson speech, going on about how he is appointing ministers and will be getting on with the job while he remains in post. Promising tax cuts and great things head. Very little mention of resignation.
 
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