Loud bangs from a suspected shooting

[Neil P]

A couple of weeks ago at 2am police entered a house opposite me after a reported shooting in the property. The call turned out to be a hoax, but there were several very loud bangs which woke us up. We dashed to the window after the bangs and could see armed police shining lights into the property.

I'm assuming the bangs were the police "knocking" on the door. I'm assuming they wouldn't fire even blank rounds as warning shots?

Anyway, not a nice wake up, and worrying that someone deliberately caused that.

 

[stevec67]

The bangs were probably the police using the Big Red Key to open the door.

 

[Neil P]

The bangs were probably the police using the Big Red Key to open the door.

Would that destroy the door? The door looked unmarked afterwards.

I did see them laying what I assume was a BRK on the floor later on.

 

[stuwils]

I used to live in an area in the east end of Glasgow called craigend and we had knee cappings nearbye. I recall taking a picture of the local pub about 150 yards along from my house of the 15 police cars outside, there were punter running out of the back of the pub with swords and machetes.
When we were selling up one of the viewers came to the door and said he would not bother coming in as he had served in Ireland and did not want to live in a war zone.

Rgds
Stuart

 

[simon g]

Maybe the Police weren't taking any chances and lobbed in some flash bangs?

 

[Tony Lockhart]

I’m guessing the coppers used a shotgun with a solid lead round to take out the door lock/s. You don’t see them in the tv rozzer shows.

 

[Amber Audio]

Possibly

I’m guessing the coppers used a shotgun with a solid lead round to take out the door lock/s. You don’t see them in the tv rozzer shows.

Yeah they probably used a breaching round, designed to blow bolts and hinges and not to richocet around like normal shot.

 

[Tony Lockhart]

That’s the term

 

[Tony Lockhart]

Sorry about the scary man in an old RAF barrack block…

 

[Tony Lockhart]

Having a read about breaching rounds, they’re frangible to prevent injury to those inside. They turn to dust after destroying the lock or hinge.

 

[Neil P]

I’m guessing the coppers used a shotgun with a solid lead round to take out the door lock/s. You don’t see them in the tv rozzer shows.

The door is white upvc and showed no signs of damage ... i don't know how accurate those rounds are?

 

[Neil P]

Maybe the Police weren't taking any chances and lobbed in some flash bangs?

I was sh*tting myself being woken up at 2am by the bangs. I dread to think what it was like for the 85yr old who lives there!

 

[Amber Audio]

The door is white upvc and showed no signs of damage ... i don't know how accurate those rounds are?

They fire from very close range, under 6 inches or right on the hinge using an adapted weapon, the “bullet” is a type of metal powder bound in wax and it’s designed to dissipate into a powder as soon as it blows the hinge out.

 

[gintonic]

some new breaching grenades now approved. Don't ask how I know

 

[Amber Audio]

some new breaching grenades now approved. Don't ask how I know

hope you took advantage of the current bogof offer

 

[Tim Jones]

They fire from very close range, under 6 inches or right on the hinge using an adapted weapon, the “bullet” is a type of metal powder bound in wax and it’s designed to dissipate into a powder as soon as it blows the hinge out.

I suspect this is very unlikely. Any discharge (so to speak) would require a lot of paperwork.

Say what you like about the rozzers (and there is much to be said), they are not utter morons.

 

[stevec67]

I suspect this is very unlikely. Any discharge (so to speak) would require a lot of paperwork.

Say what you like about the rozzers (and there is much to be said), they are not utter morons.

Well, not *all* of them.

 

[Tony Lockhart]

In the meantime, gun deaths (including suicide) have overtaken car crashes as the top cause of death in America for people aged from 1 to 19.
4,300 in 2020.

 

[Neil P]

I suspect this is very unlikely. Any discharge (so to speak) would require a lot of paperwork.

Say what you like about the rozzers (and there is much to be said), they are not utter morons.

I suspect 99% of them are top notch, unfortunately its the 1% who make the press.

I watched that video above of the chap using a shotgun to enter a premises. Far from thinking he's a weirdo, I admired his calm demeanour. He fired that gun like I would snap a twig.

 

[Andrew C!]

I'm assuming the bangs were the police "knocking" on the door. I'm assuming they wouldn't fire even blank rounds as warning shots?

No - Blank rounds are not used.

Maybe the Police weren't taking any chances and lobbed in some flash bangs?

That would be a specialist Rapid Intervention Unit task. Very unlikely in the circumstances, but their uniform is very much more military looking than the standard TSG one.

I’m guessing the coppers used a shotgun with a solid lead round to take out the door lock/s. You don’t see them in the tv rozzer shows

I am not aware of any standard entry unit using this. Highly unlikely. They are many other ways of building entry that are safer in civilian life than using this method.

Say what you like about the rozzers (and there is much to be said), they are not utter morons.

Sadly a minority do continue to let the majority down, tho.

NB - I used to be an AFO, and also supervised community impact after firearms ops until my retirement in 2015.

PS all of this info is freely and openly available on the internet. Google is your friend.