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Coronavirus - the new strain XXIII

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Failure to consider long Covid impact will hit UK economy, says expert
Dr Nathalie MacDermott says condition has substantial impact on people’s ability to work and costs to government and business

"The UK will pay an economic price for failing to consider long Covid when lifting restrictions and recommending vaccinations for children, a doctor has warned.

The decision to drop all Covid rules in England was largely based on whether the NHS could handle the number of sick patients, but far more people are expected to develop long-term medical problems after fighting off the virus.


Speaking at a Royal Society conference on the Science of Covid on Thursday, Dr Nathalie MacDermott, a specialist in paediatric infectious disease at King’s College London, said high levels of infection would result in more long Covid that would blight people’s lives, harm children’s education and undermine the economy."

[It's a scandal that this point still needs to be made]

https://www.theguardian.com/society...-covid-impact-will-hit-uk-economy-says-expert
 
Spraggons Den said:
PCR was positive of course and after a triage call from a doctor at the hospital, I am booked in for an infusion of monocochal antibodies this afternoon which is quite a relief as I know they need to be applied in the first five days to be effective.
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Here's to a speedy recovery.
 
Spraggons Den said:
PCR was positive of course and after a triage call from a doctor at the hospital, I am booked in for an infusion of monocochal antibodies this afternoon which is quite a relief as I know they need to be applied in the first five days to be effective.
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Hope it goes well, crossing my fingers as my Mrs might have been infected at work and I’m on the vulnerable list, so we’re testing obvs, they flew a guy from London to Aberdeen to do an audit, accounts dept decided they weren’t having him so he got put on a desk next to the Mrs in a 3 person office all day, at least she had ffp2 on, emailed in next morning saying he had Covid.
 
flatpopely said:
Is there an explanation for the reason Scotland is experiencing such a rise in cases despite having a stricter mask wearing protocol?
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It's hard to know how many cases there really are these days and whether it's exceptional in Scotland. The English figures dropped by about 2 fold compared to the numbers being hospitalised with the changes to protocols. The ons survey is probably the best estimate. Masks are really only effective if they're ffp2 or higher and everyone in a particular setting wears them...
 
gavreid said:
It's hard to know how many cases there really are these days and whether it's exceptional in Scotland. The English figures dropped by about 2 fold compared to the numbers being hospitalised with the changes to protocols. The ons survey is probably the best estimate. Masks are really only effective if they're ffp2 or higher and everyone in a particular setting wears them...
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That’s the problem “everyone” hasn’t bought in, they are fed up and if healthy seem to be pretty casual about Covid, more or less been under self imposed house arrest since Feb 2020 but many don’t have the luxury I do of being able to remote work 100% with no loss of earnings. Last year I directly knew zero people who’d had covid, Omicron I know loads - family and close friends lots of them have had it now.
 
Amber Audio said:
That’s the problem “everyone” hasn’t bought in, they are fed up and if healthy seem to be pretty casual about Covid, more or less been under self imposed house arrest since Feb 2020 but many don’t have the luxury I do of being able to remote work 100% with no loss of earnings. Last year I directly knew zero people who’d had covid, Omicron I know loads - family and close friends lots of them have had it now.
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We're down to 2/4 here. The rest of us stayed safe both times. Rapid isolation is key, ventilation, hand washing etc. Omicron gives you a little more time to get organised (if you have the luxury of some space) as the peak infectiousness hits a bit later than the symptoms, which wasn't the case with earlier strains.
 
I'm going to a punter shortly, her boiler isn't working and she has Covid and isolating, her partner has gone to Portugal on holiday and people wonder why this thing isn't going away?

So he'll likely be positive on a flight to Portugal or he'll infect whoever he's with over there and so it goes on.

I've told her that she'll need to be out of the house whilst I'm there.

There's some right clowns out there.
 
Amber Audio said:
That’s the problem “everyone” hasn’t bought in, they are fed up and if healthy seem to be pretty casual about Covid, more or less been under self imposed house arrest since Feb 2020 but many don’t have the luxury I do of being able to remote work 100% with no loss of earnings. Last year I directly knew zero people who’d had covid, Omicron I know loads - family and close friends lots of them have had it now.
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I've not had Covid yet despite having to go into to people's houses to work but I don't know how much longer it will be before I contract it, it's only a matter of time I think, nearly everyone I speak to now has either had it recently or someone in their family has or have had it recently.

I was at a guy last Friday and he was telling me he had a decorator booked in last week and had to cancel the decorator cause his wife had Covid, she works in a nursery in a church down the road from me, I was at her house again on Saturday and met her in the church on Monday while I was doing a job for the church.
 
Way I'm looking at it is - I'll most likely get it, the Mrs works partially customer facing in Spring/Summer - the longer I can go the more chance I'll have to survive as new treatments and more research is done, for now I avoid folk and get jabbed when they tell me. Think I'll get another jab end June cos that'll be 24 weeks after the 4th one I had in Jan.

Masks are still in place here until 18th but if many ignore the rule it is a waste of time, no way everyone is gonna mask up with FFP2 but maybe a few deaths will be prevented cos of a mask. It kinda feels like a lot of ordinary people are fed up with it all and are now of a mind to say "sod covid"
 
Amber Audio said:
Way I'm looking at it is - I'll most likely get it, the Mrs works partially customer facing in Spring/Summer - the longer I can go the more chance I'll have to survive as new treatments and more research is done, for now I avoid folk and get jabbed when they tell me. Think I'll get another jab end June cos that'll be 24 weeks after the 4th one I had in Jan.

Masks are still in place here until 18th but if many ignore the rule it is a waste of time, no way everyone is gonna mask up with FFP2 but maybe a few deaths will be prevented cos of a mask. It kinda feels like a lot of ordinary people are fed up with it all and are now of a mind to say "sod covid"
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There’s six of us in the ‘family’ me the wife son and daughter and their partners only my wife has had covid and that was Jan 2021 my son’s a chef his partner is training to be a nurse, my daughter’s a GP and her partner is a fireman and me of course.

My wife works in a very busy pharmacy.


We’re all pretty lucky I think considering where we all work.
 
twotone said:
There’s six of us in the ‘family’ me the wife son and daughter and their partners only my wife has had covid and that was Jan 2021 my son’s a chef his partner is training to be a nurse, my daughter’s a GP and her partner is a fireman and me of course.

My wife works in a very busy pharmacy.


We’re all pretty lucky I think considering where we all work.
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Surprised you've not seen more of you getting it, hope it continues!
 
On this week's briefing, now that free testing has been withdrawn, Independent SAGE is having a discussion on creating safe workplaces headed by Prof. Stephen Reicher, joined by Tracy Edwards, Dave Moxham, Janet Newsham & Ceri Williams, along with a presentation of latest covid trends by Prof. Christina Pagel.

 
"Coronavirus infection levels have hit an all-time high in England with one in 13 thought to have had Covid in the most recent week"

The figure is the highest recorded by the survey since it began looking at the situation in April 2020, and surpasses the previous high at the start of 2022, when 1 in 15 people in England were estimated to have had Covid.

[and if you want to test you will/might be able to get them in Tesco at £2 each]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-at-all-time-high-in-england-ons-data-reveals
 
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