Arkless Electronics
Trade: Amp design and repairs.
Elvis will be chuffed, it's looking like a good year for the roses
I'm going to bring a new product to market I think. Working on my marketing speak below....
'It is EXTREMELY important to isolate a solid state amplifier from vibrations as within the chips themselves there is no vibration resistance layering and especially in modern surface mount components where the legs might offer some bounce. Vibration can lead to noodling© of the signals and from there, further amplification stages, particularly power amplification can severely impact on sound quality of the music. You'll hear these as a muddying of the sound and especially in complex passages where feedback will conflate to over-noodle© the music.
For this very reason we have started to produce a silicon based on the latest Silicon Carbide processes AND more importantly using in-built damping layers within the Silicon Carbide layers and under the chip when packaged. Gold wire is used to ensure the best contact with the outside world and ceramic packages are used instead of plastic to form a solid reference box around the system.'
Just need a name for this and I'll start to market it. Any suggestions? Must be made using at least four words suggesting awesome and expensive in any order.
Basically, this is $5-10k(!) rack, correct? I particularly like the "artistically" cut images in the shelves' sheet metal.Found comments made throughout this thread by the thread starter interesting. Seems he has a clamping type device for his gear and is anti-isolation.
https://www.whatsbestforum.com/thre...-products-still-considered-accessories.30911/
Here’s another discussion from a product website that discusses the same concept.
http://starsoundtechnologies.com/liveVibeDetails2.php?THE-PROVING-GROUNDS-3
I’ve purchased HiFi products that do a similar type of thing and it’s interesting to me reading more about the topic. I thought it might be interesting to others though it might turn off those who have ascribe to a different orthodoxy.
Here’s a bit that describes the goal:
The unique direct-coupled Audio Point™ design of Sistrum Platforms allows a pre-determined pattern of energy, known as Coulomb Friction; to develop and dissipate via a high-speed calculated conductive pathway to earth's ground.
I think that picking them up on grammatical errors is pathetic, I could understand perfectly well what they meant. The question is are they talking sense and I think they are. OK, I agree that they're maybe taking their conclusions a bit far but the basic premise makes sense to me.
For years Mana got nothing but great revues across magazines of all persuasions and no bad reviews, which was an uncommon achievement, and had hundreds of happy users but to this day not many people seem to have an understanding of how it works, if any. It got derision from people who'd never tried it but were convinced it couldn't work because of the lack of a technical explanation.
Sure, there are plenty of snake oil products on the market but what these people are suggesting makes sense to me because I think it's partly how Mana works. I still cannot understand how Mana does some of the things I've heard it do but it's obvious that we do not know the complete physics on this. Bits of it yeah, but there are clearly things going on we don't understand.
I think that picking them up on grammatical errors is pathetic, I could understand perfectly well what they meant.
The question is are they talking sense and I think they are.
For years Mana got nothing but great revues across magazines of all persuasions and no bad reviews,
which was an uncommon achievement, and had hundreds of happy users but to this day not many people seem to have an understanding of how it works, if any.
It got derision from people who'd never tried it but were convinced it couldn't work because of the lack of a technical explanation.
Sure, there are plenty of snake oil products on the market but what these people are suggesting makes sense to me because I think it's partly how Mana works.
I still cannot understand how Mana does some of the things I've heard it do but it's obvious that we do not know the complete physics on this.
Bits of it yeah, but there are clearly things going on we don't understand.
They could presumably also patent it and probably bring in far greater income by carrying their successes into other markets that could benefit from their invention.
Basically, this is $5-10k(!) rack, correct? I particularly like the "artistically" cut images in the shelves' sheet metal.
If you have a very solid and high mass floor (concrete, in domestic settings), it's probably a good rack. On typical wood floors, not so much.
John said:see any reason why their products wouldn’t work on a suspended wood floor. It’s an American company and a great percentage of homes have that type of flooring.
I think that picking them up on grammatical errors is pathetic, I could understand perfectly well what they meant. The question is are they talking sense and I think they are. OK, I agree that they're maybe taking their conclusions a bit far but the basic premise makes sense to me.
For years Mana got nothing but great revues across magazines of all persuasions and no bad reviews, which was an uncommon achievement, and had hundreds of happy users but to this day not many people seem to have an understanding of how it works, if any. It got derision from people who'd never tried it but were convinced it couldn't work because of the lack of a technical explanation.
Sure, there are plenty of snake oil products on the market but what these people are suggesting makes sense to me because I think it's partly how Mana works. I still cannot understand how Mana does some of the things I've heard it do but it's obvious that we do not know the complete physics on this. Bits of it yeah, but there are clearly things going on we don't understand.
I've read loads of happy Mana reviews used under dacs, amps and all manner of solid state gubbins where it makes absolutely SFA difference to the sound on the wires.
People just like being in a club.
I don’t see any reason why their products wouldn’t work on a suspended wood floor. It’s an American company and a great percentage of homes have that type of flooring.
Well the person in the forum link who uses that technology lives in the US and has always had a suspended wood floor so that must shoot that theory.Apologies in advance to all the mechanical engineers in case my terminology, or understanding even, is incorrect. I am but a lowly computational biologist. I am happy to be corrected.
Because their products work by mechanical coupling, any vibration from coupled speakers will transfer to the floor and then any vibrations from the floor will transfer to a coupled rack and from that to the equipment. If the floor is high-mass (concrete), it would require a lot of energy to induce substantial vibration, but a suspended wooden floor will vibrate like a drum (and probably quite audibly). If the floor is vibrating, and your rack is coupled to the floor, the rack will also absorb that energy and vibrate. If it's isolated from the floor, the energy won't be transferred (eg. it'll be dissipated as heat via the isolation material like sorbothane). Things get more complicated, I guess, when you factor in the effect of sound waves hitting the coupled gear and rack and how that energy interacts phase-wise with that arriving from the floor. Way above my pay-grade.
Of course, with solid-state gear, the effect of vibration on sound may be so low as to be negligible but I lack the evidence or theory to back up that statement (aside from a couple of "just-so" at-home "experiments" on the web).
None of the products that claim to permanently "drain" vibration energy work.I just came about the Star Sound Technologies website a couple days ago when searching “resonant energy transfer”. I believe it’s a term used in physics and I was curious to read more about it.
The company makes many products that range in price from $80 to up to $9,000. The cuts into the metal shelves are there so that the brass cones can be strategically fastened to contact the bottom of the component in the appropriate place.
http://starsoundtechnologies.com/faq.php
I don’t see any reason why their products wouldn’t work on a suspended wood floor. It’s an American company and a great percentage of homes have that type of flooring.