Ponty
pfm Member
It’s another symptom of too many people living on a small island. We have very decent infrastructure, which was never intended or designed to cope with current population levels.
Torys vote to keep SH*T in the water.
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It’s another symptom of too many people living on a small island. We have very decent infrastructure, which was never intended or designed to cope with current population levels.
Seeker_UK
Feelin' nearly faded as my jeans
No it's not. It's a symptom of private ownership starving it of investment, even though it was known that the UK population size was only going to go one way.
Cheese
Bitter lover
So either you get some people to leave the country, or the UK adapts the infrastucture to the new situation, like all civilised countries do ?
TheDecameron
Unicorns fart glitter.
It’s the classic business model: buy up privatised publicly run utilities, spend as little as you can legally get away with, suck the cash out and dump the empty husk on the tax payer if your profits are squeezed through fines or price caps.
Ponty
pfm Member
Greece is in the EU, waters are full of crap. Plastic as well. At sea, the amounts floating around are just unbelievable.
Seanm
pfm Member
Shareholder profit rules out investment in infrastructure, therefore we must cull the population.
Thatcherism is just learned helplessness really. Obviously we don’t have very decent infrastructure if we need to hold the population at Victorian levels for it to cope!
TheDecameron
Unicorns fart glitter.
Population 10 million, average annual British tourist numbers 3.4 million, so a reasonable chance the turd that floated past came out of a Brit.
Seanm
pfm Member
Have to say though this has sweet FA to do with Brexit. It’s the long term running down of infrastructure that goes hand in hand with an extractive economy. The people getting rich from water do not GAF if their “customers” live or die, their stooges represent us in Parliament, so this is what we get.
gavreid
Pretty Words...
The water companies are profiteering and have not been investing sufficiently in infrastructure. I think some of these MPs have only just realised that victorians built the sewers... Monbiot wrote a good piece some months ago
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-britain-seas-sewage-fines-environment-agency
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-britain-seas-sewage-fines-environment-agency
Ponty
pfm Member
Considering nobody’s really been there since 2019, they’re lasting well.
TheDecameron
Unicorns fart glitter.
A million in 2020, probably up this year. Did you bring all yours back?
Ponty
pfm Member
Probably washed up on an Ionian shore somewhere, along with the rest of it. Their systems can’t even cope with loo roll for heavens sake.
Seanm
pfm Member
Angela Smith, ladies and gentleman, stalwart of Labour's Stop Corbyn campaign. Whatever could it have been about the left's public ownership policies that so alarmed her:
https://www.portsmouthwater.co.uk/2020/07/02/angela-smith-joins-portsmouth-water-board/
https://www.portsmouthwater.co.uk/2020/07/02/angela-smith-joins-portsmouth-water-board/
ff1d1l
pfm Member
All that needs to happen is to stop paying the leeches - shareholders - dividends, and use the money to build the infrastructure. Make spillages and dumping financially unacceptable for the companies, and setting it to rights will follow.
I had two separate ear infections requiring anti-biotics from wild swimming this year - the Tees, and Llyn Padarn.
billo
pfm Member
The Tory MP sent on to Newsnight yesterday did not exactly cover himself in glory 
His defence of Thames Water was that the crap would be running down the streets if they did not discharge into the water and that the customers would not want a rise in their bills to put it right. No mention of the shareholders dividends or CEO's pay structure
His defence of Thames Water was that the crap would be running down the streets if they did not discharge into the water and that the customers would not want a rise in their bills to put it right. No mention of the shareholders dividends or CEO's pay structure
PsB
Citizen of Nowhere™
A lot of people bought that line.
Knowing what we know now, I wonder how many still do.
PsB
Citizen of Nowhere™
How many people do you think the UK would need to deport in order for things to return to normal?
57 billion quid paid out in dividends since water privatisation. This is one of the fallouts from privatising something which is essential to life and which also has no in built competition as we all have no choice about who supplies our water. The record for Thames water alone is one of many eye watering examplesv of why utilities need to be publicly owned. With a changing climate, the future of all our utlities needs to be planned for the good of society rather than for short term profit.
PsB
Citizen of Nowhere™
Except some of the releases are happening due to a shortage of chemicals for water treatment, directly caused by distribution issues that are one of the many unintended consequences Brexit. So not quite FA.
Joe Hutch
Mate of the bloke
I avoid wild swimming problems by not being able to swim.
Politicians were only persuaded to improve the sewage system in the 19th century by the stench from the Thames making Parliament unusable. Maybe chuck a few Cabinet members into a polluted river for a similar effect.
Politicians were only persuaded to improve the sewage system in the 19th century by the stench from the Thames making Parliament unusable. Maybe chuck a few Cabinet members into a polluted river for a similar effect.