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Must be the abundance of good material.Why has version XI of this thread run to over 100 pages?
Must be the abundance of good material.Why has version XI of this thread run to over 100 pages?
I do know what you mean. £1bn has almost become small beer lately. Not sure how we got to that place.Ah, yes, slip of the brain. I certainly didn't mean £24bn!
Mind you, the way money is being slung around like confetti at the moment, it's quite easy to get in a muddle!
The EU has now moved on to trillions:I do know what you mean. £1bn has almost become small beer lately. Not sure how we got to that place.
They're taking things well in Northern Ireland, I see https://twitter.com/PoliceFedforNI/status/1379885468591009793
Brexit has really brought the country together, hasn't it?
Are you able to link to something that doesn't involve twitter?
Are you able to link to something that doesn't involve twitter?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-56669508
*Slow hand clap for all the Brexit-voting wallies*
And the bus was a real bus with a real driver. Nasty https://twitter.com/trishdevlin/status/1379871010808270850
Awful. Has there been much about this on BBC TV news? Surely if it happened anywhere else in the UK it would be the lead item.And the bus was a real bus with a real driver. Nasty https://twitter.com/trishdevlin/status/1379871010808270850
Brexit lovers don't comment on this stuff. Bojo is concerned though. Maybe he will re-visit and talk about giving vaccines to the Republic and maybe mention something about his new land bridge to Scotland to coincide with the independence vote. He might jet in on a zip wire waving a flag.
Meanwhile let's try and re-focus on sandwich's and how the 24b spend by the Tory government leaves the 24euro spent by the EU in the shade. That's why there are no vaccines in the EU they only gave 24 euro.
I've been commenting 'on this stuff' for months.
However, that there are stirrings from loyalists in NI is hardly a surprise. The EU used the issue of the border and the GFA as a means of breaking Brexit, and the result has been the utterly toxic NIP, proof in itself that the EU does not GAF about the GFA. That it is now enforcing the protocol completely disproportionately and overly legalistically is further proof, were it needed, that the EU doesn't GAF about the GFA.
The absence of proportion, balance, respect for history, and imagination on this issue by the Commission is mirrored in the demented utterings of the more evangelistic kind of EUphile, for whom there is simply no way but the EU way.
Brexit has happened. It is how we deal with the issues raised by the departure of the UK from the EU that matters now. In the case of NI this requires tact, flexibility, imagination, diplomacy and statesmanship on the part of the Commission and EU leaders, qualities that are very evidently entirely missing.
Considering any part of the situation was in significantly short supply. Still, we took back control. Didn't we?I bet you that most people in mainland UK did not consider the NI situation when they voted.
And that includes remain voters and leave voters.
No, "we" didn't.Considering any part of the situation was in significantly short supply. Still, we took back control. Didn't we?
Not this again. Tedious repetition of "It's all the fault of the EU" until repeating it makes it true. Well, keep going because you have a very, very long way to go before anyone swallows this. Northern Ireland is, as we all know, part of the UK. This makes it our own problem to solve. The EU has no jurisdiction there. It is the responsibility of the UK and comes under the governance of HM Govt. of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. This government had 4 years, including 2 GEs and 3 PMs to sort this out. If the NIP is at fault, the EU didn't force it on us. We wrote it, here in the UK. We signed it. It was our bloody job. Now the EU are "enforcing the protocol overly legalistically" according to you so it's their fault. It's not, it's our fault and OUR problem to solve. The EU are "enforcing the protocol", well of course they bloody are. That's why it's a protocol, you don't write it, sign up and then ignore it. "Imagination" is just your code for "we're special, the EU should do exactly what we want" all over again. It's a tired refrain that we have heard for 4, 5 years now.You've linked to a piece concerning death threats against Varadkar. Most seem to relate to homophobic and anti-lockdown issues, with a couple of mentions of threats from loyalists. I agree that this is all pretty ghastly, but perhaps a bit tenuous.
However, that there are stirrings from loyalists in NI is hardly a surprise. The EU used the issue of the border and the GFA as a means of breaking Brexit, and the result has been the utterly toxic NIP, proof in itself that the EU does not GAF about the GFA. That it is now enforcing the protocol completely disproportionately and overly legalistically is further proof, were it needed, that the EU doesn't GAF about the GFA.
The absence of proportion, balance, respect for history, and imagination on this issue by the Commission is mirrored in the demented utterings of the more evangelistic kind of EUphile, for whom there is simply no way but the EU way.
Brexit has happened. It is how we deal with the issues raised by the departure of the UK from the EU that matters now. In the case of NI this requires tact, flexibility, imagination, diplomacy and statesmanship on the part of the Commission and EU leaders, qualities that are very evidently entirely missing.