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Brexit: give me a positive effect... XII

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Ah, yes, slip of the brain. I certainly didn't mean £24bn!

Mind you, the way money is being slung around like confetti at the moment, it's quite easy to get in a muddle!
I do know what you mean. £1bn has almost become small beer lately. Not sure how we got to that place.
 
And the bus was a real bus with a real driver. Nasty https://twitter.com/trishdevlin/status/1379871010808270850

Thankfully unhurt

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-56669508

*Slow hand clap for all the Brexit-voting wallies*

Brexit lovers don't comment on this stuff. Bojo is concerned though. Maybe he will re-visit and talk about giving vaccines to the Republic and maybe mention something about his new land bridge to Scotland to coincide with the independence vote. He might jet in on a zip wire waving a flag.

Meanwhile let's try and re-focus on sandwich's and how the 24b spend by the Tory government leaves the 24euro spent by the EU in the shade. That's why there are no vaccines in the EU they only gave 24 euro.
 
And the bus was a real bus with a real driver. Nasty https://twitter.com/trishdevlin/status/1379871010808270850
Awful. Has there been much about this on BBC TV news? Surely if it happened anywhere else in the UK it would be the lead item.

Edit: Just saw it on the 10 o'clock news. A couple of minutes, halfway through the bulletin with almost no analysis and context.

Indicative of the UK mainland's attitude to NI, I guess.
 
Brexit lovers don't comment on this stuff. Bojo is concerned though. Maybe he will re-visit and talk about giving vaccines to the Republic and maybe mention something about his new land bridge to Scotland to coincide with the independence vote. He might jet in on a zip wire waving a flag.

Meanwhile let's try and re-focus on sandwich's and how the 24b spend by the Tory government leaves the 24euro spent by the EU in the shade. That's why there are no vaccines in the EU they only gave 24 euro.

I've been commenting 'on this stuff' for months.
 
You've linked to a piece concerning death threats against Varadkar. Most seem to relate to homophobic and anti-lockdown issues, with a couple of mentions of threats from loyalists. I agree that this is all pretty ghastly, but perhaps a bit tenuous.

However, that there are stirrings from loyalists in NI is hardly a surprise. The EU used the issue of the border and the GFA as a means of breaking Brexit, and the result has been the utterly toxic NIP, proof in itself that the EU does not GAF about the GFA. That it is now enforcing the protocol completely disproportionately and overly legalistically is further proof, were it needed, that the EU doesn't GAF about the GFA.

The absence of proportion, balance, respect for history, and imagination on this issue by the Commission is mirrored in the demented utterings of the more evangelistic kind of EUphile, for whom there is simply no way but the EU way.

Brexit has happened. It is how we deal with the issues raised by the departure of the UK from the EU that matters now. In the case of NI this requires tact, flexibility, imagination, diplomacy and statesmanship on the part of the Commission and EU leaders, qualities that are very evidently entirely missing.
 
However, that there are stirrings from loyalists in NI is hardly a surprise. The EU used the issue of the border and the GFA as a means of breaking Brexit, and the result has been the utterly toxic NIP, proof in itself that the EU does not GAF about the GFA. That it is now enforcing the protocol completely disproportionately and overly legalistically is further proof, were it needed, that the EU doesn't GAF about the GFA.

Tedious insistance that the EU compromise the single market we chose to leave, in order to solve a UK problem of it's own creation which it's now choosing to try and ignore having sold out it's DUP allies along the way. If the roles were reversed in the same negotiation no way would Johnson and Frost see it as their problem to solve.

This was a problem Brexiters chose to pretend didn't exist because it is suddenly inconvenient.

The absence of proportion, balance, respect for history, and imagination on this issue by the Commission is mirrored in the demented utterings of the more evangelistic kind of EUphile, for whom there is simply no way but the EU way.

AKA as "why don't they just do what we want".

Brexit has happened. It is how we deal with the issues raised by the departure of the UK from the EU that matters now. In the case of NI this requires tact, flexibility, imagination, diplomacy and statesmanship on the part of the Commission and EU leaders, qualities that are very evidently entirely missing.

It's genuinely hilarious how international law, agreements and treaties can suddenly be light touch and “reasonable” because they no longer suit a completely different border situatiuon we have embarked on unilaterally. If only the other parties would bury their intransigence to unilateral change forced on them, everything would be fine.

You think this shouldn't be a problem because you, like many others here didn't give a shite and don't see why this Irish tail should wag the English Brexit dog. The bluster and pretence that this was not going to be an issue, was just another piece of Brexit B/S, albeit a rather serious one.
 
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Sun-lit uplands of Belfast. Sixth consecutive night of Unionist rioting.
‘An embarrassment,’ says Arlene Foster.

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Sold down the river by Boris Johnson.
 
I bet you that most people in mainland UK did not consider the NI situation when they voted.
And that includes remain voters and leave voters.
 
I bet you that most people in mainland UK did not consider the NI situation when they voted.
And that includes remain voters and leave voters.
Considering any part of the situation was in significantly short supply. Still, we took back control. Didn't we?
 
Considering any part of the situation was in significantly short supply. Still, we took back control. Didn't we?
No, "we" didn't.
The politicians did, on our behalf.
As it turns out, they are simply not as competent as needed, Labour or Tory.
Whatever, the decision was made.
 
You've linked to a piece concerning death threats against Varadkar. Most seem to relate to homophobic and anti-lockdown issues, with a couple of mentions of threats from loyalists. I agree that this is all pretty ghastly, but perhaps a bit tenuous.

However, that there are stirrings from loyalists in NI is hardly a surprise. The EU used the issue of the border and the GFA as a means of breaking Brexit, and the result has been the utterly toxic NIP, proof in itself that the EU does not GAF about the GFA. That it is now enforcing the protocol completely disproportionately and overly legalistically is further proof, were it needed, that the EU doesn't GAF about the GFA.

The absence of proportion, balance, respect for history, and imagination on this issue by the Commission is mirrored in the demented utterings of the more evangelistic kind of EUphile, for whom there is simply no way but the EU way.

Brexit has happened. It is how we deal with the issues raised by the departure of the UK from the EU that matters now. In the case of NI this requires tact, flexibility, imagination, diplomacy and statesmanship on the part of the Commission and EU leaders, qualities that are very evidently entirely missing.
Not this again. Tedious repetition of "It's all the fault of the EU" until repeating it makes it true. Well, keep going because you have a very, very long way to go before anyone swallows this. Northern Ireland is, as we all know, part of the UK. This makes it our own problem to solve. The EU has no jurisdiction there. It is the responsibility of the UK and comes under the governance of HM Govt. of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. This government had 4 years, including 2 GEs and 3 PMs to sort this out. If the NIP is at fault, the EU didn't force it on us. We wrote it, here in the UK. We signed it. It was our bloody job. Now the EU are "enforcing the protocol overly legalistically" according to you so it's their fault. It's not, it's our fault and OUR problem to solve. The EU are "enforcing the protocol", well of course they bloody are. That's why it's a protocol, you don't write it, sign up and then ignore it. "Imagination" is just your code for "we're special, the EU should do exactly what we want" all over again. It's a tired refrain that we have heard for 4, 5 years now.
 
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