SteveS1
I heard that, pardon?
Sadly the likely not guilty verdict will only enhance his standing with his followers. Maybe the Dem’s shouldn’t have bothered.
That's not the audience and of course they should.
Sadly the likely not guilty verdict will only enhance his standing with his followers. Maybe the Dem’s shouldn’t have bothered.
The whole world is the audience and every section of it will make their own interpretation of the proceedings and the verdict. Trump and his followers will be crowing and more confident after a not guilty verdict and I can’t see that it will do the Dems any good. Much as I would like to see him disgraced and put away it may have been more politically pragmatic to not go ahead.That's not the audience and of course they should.
Sadly the likely not guilty verdict will only enhance his standing with his followers. Maybe the Dem’s shouldn’t have bothered.
The whole world is the audience and every section of it will make their own interpretation of the proceedings and the verdict. Trump and his followers will be crowing and more confident after a not guilty verdict and I can’t see that it will do the Dems any good. Much as I would like to see him disgraced and put away it may have been more politically pragmatic to not go ahead.
It will be interesting to see the Republican defence later today
They have the riot footage already without an attempted impeachment. I’m more concerned about the endorsement of a non gui,ty outcome.I suspect it will be very useful to have in the bank, e.g. come the mid-terms just run footage of the racism, riots and violence as attack ads against any senators or congressmen who effectively endorsed it. In any sane world the riot footage should be a gift to the Dems for a very long time.
They have the riot footage already without an attempted impeachment. I’m more concerned about the endorsement of a non gui,ty outcome.
So far the Democrats have done an excellent job of linking Trumps pronouncements with insurrection. In one clip he was boasting that all he had to do was give a wink and the crowd would do his will, there are many more that demonstrate the Trump has been working up to insurrection for months and has been instrumental in instigating the lawless attempt to overthrow democracy.
It will be interesting to see the Republican defence later today
I thought that this was quite good on the subject:The defence will just carry on arguing that the impeachment is unconstitutional, even thought the senate just voted that it isn't.
The Republican 'ballot' for voting in the trial has two options:Its not just Trump on trial. It's the GOP as well. There's a guilty verdict whichever way they vote.
Let’s hope so... maybe I lack faith in the general American electorate.I understand what you mean, but from what I can tell Trump’s base are radicalised/a religious cult. They are absolutely entrenched, absolutely unswayable. They are the Taliban. The voters who are shiftable will hopefully be repulsed by Republican senators and congressmen effectively endorsing a far-right terrorist act.
Sorry to say that the Republicans have come back strong with a series of Democrats including House Managers using the language of fighting.
The charge against Trump is Abuse of Power, but they’ve failed to nail that with an unlawful act.
We all know Trump is as guilty as sin, but finding a smoking gun isn’t happening.
Perhaps if Mitch McConnell does the right thing, a few more Republicans might vote the right way too, but it’s looking like an acquittal so far.
I could live with Trump not being impeached if this signalled the start of the decline of the GOP.They didn't deal with the question in hand. To be honest his acquittal is a big problem for them. The more lawsuits Trump faces, the worse it will age as a choice. The GOP had a chance to at least limit damage, they seem determined not to.