Tony L
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Late Seventies stuff I'd call more "Indie" tbh. Independent record labels sprang up after punk in a big way. RoughTrade , Factory , 4AD etc etc.
Indie is a mid-80s thing for me. The point where so much seemed influenced by the first VU album, 60s garage bands etc, plus the advent of shoegaze, hardcore, grunge etc very much it’s own genre and very distinct from new-wave. To broaden the term ‘indie’ beyond this to just mean ‘non-major label’ you have to include Island, Virgin etc, and that means Tubular Bells is an indie album, and no one wants that!
I’d narrow ‘new-wave’ down to that which happened between say Magazine’s Real Life and The Cure’s Faith and includes outliers such as Colossal Youth by The Young Marble Giants. The most ‘new wave’ album imaginable? How about Playing With A Different Sex by The Au Pairs. I honestly don’t think you could out-new-wave that one.