Brian
Eating fat, staying slim
Whatever you say. Fact is, I'm comfortable in the knowledge I am happy to see a case for independence when one is made and happy to discuss the subject properly.I don't think that helped your cause there, both sides are equally happy to avoid any substance and proper discussion.
I think it's possible what you haven't grasped about my opinion is, whether Scotland is a deficit or not to the UK makes no difference to me. I value the UK for the relationship between its people, I don't care if England factually subsidises the rest, I'm all for it if that is really the case. You and others may not agree with my opinion on that, but it's nothing for people to become nasty about. It's not like I'm saying "I hate Scots, you're a drain on England, now bugger off and have your independence". Perhaps I'd get a better reaction if I did take that view?
I understand there is no way of getting through to the hardline nationalists and that's the same the world over, such people won't ever make a case for independence because for them it's simply an emotional thing of wanting to get away from England, they'll accept whatever happens because it's worth it. Unfortunately, the tory party has given fuel to these people, similar to how the tories created the conditions for brexit with their policies of austerity and cuts.
Let's hope the entitled-to-rule tories can be persuaded to agree to a referendum, though I'm still waiting on even an inkling from the nationalists here of how the SNP will manage that when dealing with people prepared to flout international law. Then we'll see what a majority of Scots think, rather than a small minority of the emotional types posting on pfm. If it's independence then I wish you the best of luck.