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Tiocfaidh a lá? Not Arleen - if I remember correctly, she said that, if reunification would ever take place, she'd move to the mainland. Crazy, because the dominant Protestant Plantation settlers came from Scotland - and the Scots who invaded and ultimately named Scotland over a millennium before, partially displacing the Picts, came from Ireland, so she's as Irish as Paddy's pig. And the Northern Loyalists don't seem to get that the average English person wishes s/he'd never heard of Ireland.

Probably not even much about religion any more. Maybe just big fish in a small pond syndrome... and the benefits that come with that.
 
Again, Im curious to know how low you are prepared to go in defending Johnson’s actions.
How anyone can defend the breaking of International law is beyond belief. The fact these people cant see it shows you where we are at today. There is a bigger fight to come one of which Westminster has never seen. That's taking away the power of devolution. I have not seen so much anger up here even by none independence voters who are now turning to independence.
 
I fully support Johnson’s Internal Market Bill.

The nations, not so blest as thee,
Must, in their turns, to tyrants fall;
While thou shalt flourish great and free,
The dread and envy of them all.
"Rule, Britannia! rule the waves:
"Britons never will be slaves."
 
Again, Im curious to know how low you are prepared to go in defending Johnson’s actions.

Good luck with that, no amount of economic damage or national duplicity will bother the nationalists. Loved Johnson's straw man stance he looked even more pathetic than usual. When cornered just lie. These hypocrites will support him whatever.
 
Having no respect for the law is an underlying principle of democracy. Not.

Been partaking of the black mirror again EV?

Yes all that pearl clutching early on at the Farage admiration suggestions, it's almost laughable isn't it?
 
Good luck with that, no amount of economic damage or national duplicity will bother the nationalists. Loved Johnson's straw man stance he looked even more pathetic than usual. When cornered just lie. These hypocrites will support him whatever.
Like Trump, he’s taken over the party, it’s now the Boris Party- their fortunes live and die alongside his. He threw moderate ‘dissenters‘ out of the Party and current dissenters ( like the dreadful Cox) think they can save their reputation by making what they know to be a futile simulation of decency. Once a ruling political party starts to vote in support of law breaking and shutting down scrutiny ( closing parliament, threatening judges and the courts) then you know your society is already in deep trouble. They’ll turn on the public next and they will use force.
 
I fully support Johnson’s Internal Market Bill.

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Probably not even much about religion any more. Maybe just big fish in a small pond syndrome... and the benefits that come with that.
The religion angle basically (roughly) defines two different tribes. One tribe has been top dog for centuries and is determined to stay there. The other tribe, suppressed for centuries, has suddenly got a whiff of the possibility of equality in its own country and wants it.
 
The Ulster Planters were predominantly Presbyterians from the Scottish Lowlands, a population whose language and history had very little in common with the more Catholic, Gaelic-influenced Highlands.
Except that they were both Celtic in origin, with little or no influence from the Roman/Anglo-Saxon/Norman country to the south of Hadrian's Wall. (The Romans took one look at the Irish Sea and the land beyond, decided that they definitely didn't want to go there, and named it Hibernia (the land of Winter)). John Knox, influenced by the teachings of Jean Calvin in Geneva (he once resided there), did the rest.
 
Except that they were both Celtic in origin, with little or no influence from the Roman/Anglo-Saxon/Norman country to the south of Hadrian's Wall.
That's untrue. At the time the Romans left, Lowland Scotland was divided between Britons (speaking a language similar to Welsh) in the West, and Angles in the East, speaking a Germanic language that would become Scots (or English, depending on where you see Scots on the dialect/language scale).

Those Angles, over time, moved westward and pushed the Britons out of power by the 8th century or so (as the Highland Gaels had earlier done in the opposite direction, to the Picts). By the time of the Plantations, centuries later, the Lowlands had been Scots-speaking and culturally distinct from the Gaelic Highlands for a long time.

Saying that Scotland is a Celtic nation is just as meaningless as saying that Ireland is. When you come down to it, most of England is Celtic in origin too: there weren't enough Saxons to out-populate (or murder) all of the existing Britons, and over time the Celts assimilated, just as they had with the Romans before.
 
Except that they were both Celtic in origin, with little or no influence from the Roman/Anglo-Saxon/Norman country to the south of Hadrian's Wall. (The Romans took one look at the Irish Sea and the land beyond, decided that they definitely didn't want to go there, and named it Hibernia (the land of Winter)). John Knox, influenced by the teachings of Jean Calvin in Geneva (he once resided there), did the rest.
I’m sitting 300m from the remains of a Roman baths and latrine on the Antonine Wall. I’d describe the climate here as indistinguishable from that of Ulster. Tablets that never made the mail back to Rome and found at Vindolanda on Hadrian’s effort would seem to suggest that North Britain wasn’t viewed as a plum posting.
 
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