We'll have a "world class" automated system by then. Nothing to worry about.
Well, there's two posters who seem to agree that the CS was not impartial in regard of its post brexit vote conduct.
We’re going to need a lot more popcorn in our Brexit cupboard...
The attempts by Cummings and his admirers on here to portray the CS as biased and obstructive as opposed to inefficient or somehow more cumbersome than for countless previous administrations is all to do with ideology. If Labour had won the election and set about this course of action, the same people would have been screaming and howling. The GOP enabling of Trump has obviously impressed Cummings and his backers and this is part of replicating it here. Nothing to do with wanting an unbiased or honest CS, everything to do with having a more compliant one.
You're a slippery sod, sorry soul ET, the masque slipped way back and your high minded pretentions with it. Windrush was entirely consistent with May's "hostile environment" and her obsession with numbers following Cameron's absurd 'targets' with the usual suspects cheering her on. Your attempt to blame the CS is risible.
Masques, high-minded pretensions? What tf are you on about now? The only mask that's slipped is the one behind which you conceal some vapid and partisan-at-any-cost thought processes.
You won't find me defending May. She was an appalling Home Secretary, and a hopeless PM. But this conversation wasn't about May, it was about the Civil Service.
Read the bloody report, or otherwise perhaps consider keeping it zipped. Sometimes it's more dignified.
I have read it and you trying to make it something it's not - doesn't change it. It isn't simply about the CS, it's about the policy decisions, the culture of disbelief, the lack of concern for consequences, the populating of the HO with staff more likely to be onboard with the government's increasingly anti-immigration policies and communications. It's not just about what happened in there, it's about what drove, enabled and then encouraged that culture and the subsequent ignoring of the very real concerns that were already being raised.
I agree Steve and I dislike that Twitter thread. It drips the kind of sneering condecension towards Leave voters that is part of the problem. If people have been fed shite about the EU 24/7 for decades, you can't blame (some of) them if they believe it. That said, I'd hope this experience would make the individuals pause, reflect and put the blame where it belongs - with Farage and all the other people who lied to them for years.It's what the UK have media have fed people for years, some of it was bound to stick. Regulation and standards became "unnecessary red tape", totally reciprocal agreements on travel and movement became "loss of immigration control", controls and protections became "unnecessary bureaucracy".
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/unitedkingdom/en/media/euromyths.html
I expect voters were too smart to believe them, that's why they were relentlessly repeated.
I make an allowance for the drip drip brainwashing. Certainly the peddlers of that crap have most to answer for but I have doubt about the scales falling from people's eyes and the correct apportioning of blame.I agree Steve and I dislike that Twitter thread. It drips the kind of sneering condecension towards Leave voters that is part of the problem. If people have been fed shite about the EU 24/7 for decades, you can't blame (some of) them if they believe it. That said, I'd hope this experience would make the individuals pause, reflect and put the blame where it belongs - with Farage and all the other people who lied to them for years.
OK, sure, that's all more measured and reasonable. You have an axe to grind with the tories, which is fine. I'm happy to debate these things on the terms you've set out above, but not amidst barely veiled accusations of racism.
Give it a rest. The forum is not all about you trying to be a smartarse.
I make an allowance for the drip drip brainwashing. Certainly the peddlers of that crap have most to answer for but I have doubt about the scales falling from people's eyes and the correct apportioning of blame.
Much more likely is a readiness to be misled once again. Doubling down on prejudice or fresh scapegoating.
You really need to read the complete thread, it's very funny, like an Alan Bennett monologue, but surely it must be a spoof? The couple in question and their son couldn't possibly be that stupid, could they? Really?