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Should Ched Evans be playing professional soccer?

Bravo brucie baby , i have just forgiven you for playing for utd .

Save your breath.

BBC Sports Editor Dan Roan followed the story as it developed and says:
"For many critics, Oldham's attempt to sign a convicted rapist in the face of unprecedented opposition proved that football is out of touch with modern values. It strengthens the view held by many that football puts results on the pitch before principles, and of a profound disconnect between club boardrooms and the public at large.

Not even Glasgow Rangers want him.
 
Rape is an ugly word for an awful crime. But I confess, I'm a little bit uncomfortable with the fact that the term applies with equal severity to attacking an woman in a dark place, as it does to starting to have sex with a consenting female, who then exercises her (perfectly reasonable) right to change her mind. As well as to having ostensibly consensual sex with somebody apparently incapable, through drink, of making an informed decision- when the other person's decision-making might also be impaired, for much the same reason.

It seems to me that, rather like murder, and the lesser crime of manslaughter, we need a lesser term for non-consensual sex not involving violence or coercion, one without so much emotional baggage.
 
I haven't read through the whole thread, so this may have already been said.
Yes he should play football, on the understanding that he pays 50% of his wages to a Rape victim charity until such time that he apologises to the victim & she is satisfied with the sincerity of the apology.
If the alternative is that he will end up on the dole, how is the state supporting him a better option?
Matt.
 
I haven't read through the whole thread, so this may have already been said.
Yes he should play football, on the understanding that he pays 50% of his wages to a Rape victim charity until such time that he apologises to the victim & she is satisfied with the sincerity of the apology.
If the alternative is that he will end up on the dole, how is the state supporting him a better option?
Matt.

Apart from the fact that Evans denies raping anyone, your scheme is flawless.
 
I love the idea of her being "satisfied with the sincerity of the apology" What's she going to say? "Oh never mind it's all right"
 
Should a rapist be allowed to play professional football - yes.

Would a rapist be allowed to play professional football - no.
 
Should a rapist be allowed to play professional football - yes.
Would a rapist be allowed to play professional football - no.


There's nothing to stop him playing pro football if he finds a club willing to take him on. Do you know of any?
 
I wish the incompetent dimwits at Oldham had signed him. I would have enjoyed watching their whole scummy business go right down the plug hole.
 
Any professional footballer who became a convicted rapist could NOT do their job.

Apart from kicking a ball about on a grass field for 90 minutes they also have other commitments.
I know of no clubs that do not have football in the community schemes. I for one would not want an unrepentant convicted rapist going into schools, hospitals or community centres. Even if they did they would require very careful chaperoning to meet the terms of the sex offenders register. Similarly any involvement with minor and youth team players would require careful supervision.
 
The requirements of the Sex Offenders Register is that you notify the authorities of where you are living. Plans to travel outside of the UK / spend more than 7 days away from home also have to be notified. Offenders have to register once a year with the police.
In some sex cases Sexual Offender Prevention Orders are made that restrict particular activities associated with the convicted persons offending. Not aware such an order was made in Evan's case. Would be very surprised if it was.
So no legal bar to him playing football.
 
Having read and digested the thread and examined the facts in so far as they are available there does seem to be a lot of confected outrage around this case.
 
I'm surprised anybody gives a toss about Ched Evans, apart from the fact that he deserved to serve his 5 year term.

Jack
 
Rape is an ugly word for an awful crime. But I confess, I'm a little bit uncomfortable with the fact that the term applies with equal severity to attacking an woman in a dark place, as it does to starting to have sex with a consenting female, who then exercises her (perfectly reasonable) right to change her mind.

It seems to me that, rather like murder, and the lesser crime of manslaughter, we need a lesser term for non-consensual sex not involving violence or coercion, one without so much emotional baggage.
I disagree. There are degrees of murder as well as degrees of rape. Manslaughter is not intending to kill but killing anyway. Murder is intent. There can be no "lesser rape" where you didn't intend to do it. Murder comes in degrees. If I lie in wait for someone and kill them when they appear, or turn up at their house with a gun, that is a much worse crime than (say) me getting into a fight that someone else may have started and kicking someone to death in a rage. Both are murder. It's up to the judge to then decide whether I deserve a full life term and die in prison or 20 years, out in 10 with a tag. Same goes for rape.
 
Rape is an ugly word for an awful crime. But I confess, I'm a little bit uncomfortable with the fact that the term applies with equal severity to attacking an woman in a dark place, as it does to starting to have sex with a consenting female, who then exercises her (perfectly reasonable) right to change her mind. As well as to having ostensibly consensual sex with somebody apparently incapable, through drink, of making an informed decision- when the other person's decision-making might also be impaired, for much the same reason.

It seems to me that, rather like murder, and the lesser crime of manslaughter, we need a lesser term for non-consensual sex not involving violence or coercion, one without so much emotional baggage.

Totally agree! I'll no doubt be out on a limb here but IMHO rape in which there is no violence or injury and it's merely a case of intoxication/can't remember giving consent next day or mind changed part way through should not be treated as all that serious a crime....

Certainly less serious than punching someone and braking their jaw for example...
 
Totally agree! I'll no doubt be out on a limb here but IMHO rape in which there is no violence or injury and it's merely a case of intoxication/can't remember giving consent next day or mind changed part way through should not be treated as all that serious a crime....

For a 'socialist' you seem to have a pretty right wing attitude to crime against women. I remember Auberon Waugh making the same point. Put this argument to some women you know and you'll certainly find out what a broken jaw feels like.
 


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