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York at night

Discussion in 'photo' started by flatpopely, Mar 14, 2017.

  1. flatpopely

    flatpopely Prog Rock/Moderator

    Went on a course this weekend and took some good (for me pics) :D

    Nikon D40
    18-55 kit lens
    Cheapo tripod




  2. david ellwood

    david ellwood Kirabosi Kognoscente

    You have a very impressive flash!
  3. flatpopely

    flatpopely Prog Rock/Moderator

    Er, no.
  4. koi

    koi pfm Member

    �� nice
  5. agnes

    agnes Agnes

    You have an impressive tripod....
  6. Mr Perceptive

    Mr Perceptive Perceptive Member

    I don't understand the comments on this thread, the photo room usually has a lot more courtesy. I also don't know if the OP posted these intending for critical comment or not.

    In my opinion if these were the OPs first attempt at such shooting then its a good start.

    If they are SOOC and not been processed then again its a good start.

    What I would say is that they all need to be levelled (the 2nd one especially does my head in!!!), and if the OP has the ability or the tools to process RAW files, then I would have exposed the images for less, and brought back up the shadows so as to avoid. blowing out the highlights, that way the man made lighting could be kept under control.

    But Mr Flatpoply, its a good start, and one that I hope has encouraged you to do more photography.
  7. Tarzan

    Tarzan pfm Member

    Nice shots, York looks lovely.:cool:
  8. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart pfm Member

    Good composition, but yeah, the images seem quite flat and lifeless. I had a quick (under a minute) play in the PhotoForge2 app on my iPhone:


    Levels, contrast and a little bit of noise reduction. I could spend more time on it, but I'm tired after my early start :)
  9. sls4321

    sls4321 pfm Member

    I agree with Mr Perceptive.

    It is always better to slightly under-expose and edit exposure and shadows, once over-exposed the blown out part of the image is difficult or impossible to recover.

    The lens also distorts heavily at its widest. Either avoid 18mm, shoot around 35mm if possible, or leave some extra width in the image so once straightened it can be cropped.

    Personally, I think very wide angles should be used mostly for close-ups. Scenic pictures usually require straight lines (horizons/buildings etc.) and good wide angle optics are expensive. Leaning lampposts are difficult on the eye.

    Last week I was using the optically superb Zeiss 21mm ZM, costs £1,000, and the £300 14mm Samyang, which can be straightened in Lightroom but optically is hugely inferior. The only decent budget wide angle I recall was the Sigma 10-20.
  10. Clay B

    Clay B pfm Member


    Rank novice here. When you say lens distorts heavily at its widest can you point out where you notice it most clearly on these shots. If its obvious please be kind!
  11. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart pfm Member

    Look at the lamp post in the last image, with the fort on the hill. The post is leaning in, and that's because the camera wasn't level. Try it out at home: hold the camera level with the lens at its widest. See the verticals lean in and out as you tilt it? As mentioned above, you can shoot wider than you need to, and correct the distortion in photoshop. However, to then crop the image to make it rectangular, you lose some of the image's edges.

    In this shot, taken at 16mm on a full-frame camera, I kept the camera as level as I could to save work later. All verticals are acceptably vertical. I think.

    With many subjects it doesn't matter, just keep your eyes open. It's bloody easy to forget!
  12. Clay B

    Clay B pfm Member

    Thank you Tony

    I now absolutely see and understand what you're talking about. Appreciate your taking the time.
  13. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart pfm Member

    Except I forgot to paste the link to the image I referred to! Here:

  14. Clay B

    Clay B pfm Member

    Wondered about that but your tower example was very clear. This latest picture is indeed largely vertical except perhaps very slightly at the power pole. Am I getting better?��

  15. flatpopely

    flatpopely Prog Rock/Moderator


    I am an total amateur when it comes to this sort of thing.
    The pics were shot in JPEG, not RAW. There is no processing applied at all.

    When you say leveled what do you mean? In the sense of horizontal and vertical.
  16. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart pfm Member


    Just try it while looking through the viewfinder or at the screen. The more you point the lens up, the more distorted the verticals become.
  17. Pete MB&D

    Pete MB&D Pete Maddex, the one and only!


    As you are using a Nikon you can download the free Capture NX-D program and edit RAW images, I use it 99% of the time and only use photoshop etc occasionally.

    I think you have done some well composed images you just need a bit of editing to finish them off.

  18. Mr Perceptive

    Mr Perceptive Perceptive Member

    Water shouldn't be at an angle unless it's flowing that way!!!
  19. Pete MB&D

    Pete MB&D Pete Maddex, the one and only!

    A tripod with a ball and socket head will help you getting things vertical.
    Or you can adjust it in Capture NX-D.


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