Daniel Quinn
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And my week is complete with only 10 minutes to spare . A week without gassor playing the man not the point is simply not possible I concluded long ago . Bloody hell , this week it was close , but not possible all the same .
Should Ched Evans be playing professional soccer?
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Quite possibly! To me it's a straight comparison of degree of harm caused etc.... If you get your jaw broken by a drunk yob then there is considerable pain, visits to hospital, wired jaw, special diet, time off work etc but in a case of no violence rape, especially if it's with someone they have shagged in the past or know and they have no fear they are going to be murdered afterwards or anything like that, the physical act is nothing more or less than something they may well have wanted to happen the day before or the week after.... so IMHO hardly a major crime.
gassor
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And how many ignore lists have you been put on this week? You always put a smile on my face with your lack of cogency about any topic you comment on
Darth Vader
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I don't believe there is such a thing as there will often be psychological damage that may be with a woman for the rest of their life. Thats why we are seeing historical rape cases as these women have often suffered for decades and need closure.
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DV
I would imagine that the psychological damage is 95% of the harm done in a rape. All of it in the case of a "date rape" crime. After all the physical act alone is little different to the same thing done with consent. The damage will be the betrayal of trust etc, in much the same way as a sexually molested child may not have suffered a physical injury but has suffered great mental harm.
Brian
Eating fat, staying slim
Case by case for judging the damage. Who knows how an individual is affected?
I do think there is a difference between this rape and someone being beaten up and raped under threat of their life. The law recognised that with the sentence, I would think. Thing is, some bloke got 3 years for attacking one of my kids and nicking his mobile phone some years ago.
I'm in the 'lock them up, cut off the gonads and throw away the key' camp but we don't do that in the UK so he should be playing football. He can't rehabilitate unless he does.
I do think there is a difference between this rape and someone being beaten up and raped under threat of their life. The law recognised that with the sentence, I would think. Thing is, some bloke got 3 years for attacking one of my kids and nicking his mobile phone some years ago.
I'm in the 'lock them up, cut off the gonads and throw away the key' camp but we don't do that in the UK so he should be playing football. He can't rehabilitate unless he does.
Joe
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I give you the case...you and I meet for the first time and agree to have sex.
As we start you realise that I enjoy my sex far more physical and hard than you do,you feel suddenly scared and out of you depth and wish to stop. I do not stop and have no intention of stopping.
Do you feel raped?
Have you been raped?
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Joe
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I don't think that the man has a problem, what he appears to be asking is that let's say you picked up a chap, assuming this to be your thing
which it may not be, and it all appeared to be going according to plan until he cut up a bit rough and then you cried "stop!" then at what point would it be rape? At what point would your consent be deemed to have stopped? Does this then make it rape and if so, when? I've already said what I think.
which it may not be, and it all appeared to be going according to plan until he cut up a bit rough and then you cried "stop!" then at what point would it be rape? At what point would your consent be deemed to have stopped? Does this then make it rape and if so, when? I've already said what I think.
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Well thanks Joe..... you say such kind things... What exactly is your problem here?
The problem here is that you don't seem to grasp that this is not a lighthearted issue. You seem incapable of recognising the psychological damage that it inflicts on women. You really need to talk to any female friends you might have.
Cav
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What do you actually know of "the psychological damage that it inflicts on women"?
Cav
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I am asking what you know, either personally or professionally, of the psychological damage that all raped women suffer.
deanf
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And men.
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If you are attacked by yobs and end up in hospital for weeks/months, in agony, maybe with life changing injuries that could mean no longer being able to carry on your work and having to give up any sports you once did, on crutches for ever maybe... how bad is that? The perpetrators would probably get 3 - 5 years, the same or less than someone found guilty of a tenuous, non violent "rape" such as Evens was accused of. The victim in this case has no injuries other than hurt pride and possible emotional damage. How much emotional damage do you think the violent mugging victim suffers? At least as much I'll wager. Possibly scared to leave the house, always looking behind, PTS etc.
If we are talking emotional damage then how damaging is to anyone to loose a loved one? No crime involved (usually!) and a part of life but the death of a close relative/partner is surely one of the most emotionally damaging episodes anyone is likely to go through... and yet we get on with life and rebuild our world.
No crime should be taboo to discuss and placed on a pedestal. Times change and social mores change... especially with the PC/vocal feminist brigade shouting about it so much and tabloids using sex crimes to sell papers and try to stir up outrage for their own profit.
If we are talking emotional damage then how damaging is to anyone to loose a loved one? No crime involved (usually!) and a part of life but the death of a close relative/partner is surely one of the most emotionally damaging episodes anyone is likely to go through... and yet we get on with life and rebuild our world.
No crime should be taboo to discuss and placed on a pedestal. Times change and social mores change... especially with the PC/vocal feminist brigade shouting about it so much and tabloids using sex crimes to sell papers and try to stir up outrage for their own profit.
It's generally acknowledged that following a rape, of a woman or of a man, the psychological damage is in general far more severe than in the case of a non sexual violent assault. It is an assault on the most private area of the body, after all. As to degree of damage, there is of course no one size fits all. Some people will be emotionally crippled, some not. There are thousands of cases, all different.
Nevertheless, your assertion that violent mugging victims suffer as much damage as a rape victim is very much at odds with the received wisdom from those who have to deal with these things as part of a job. I suspect that if you aired that opinion amongst police officers you'd get laughed at.
Nevertheless, your assertion that violent mugging victims suffer as much damage as a rape victim is very much at odds with the received wisdom from those who have to deal with these things as part of a job. I suspect that if you aired that opinion amongst police officers you'd get laughed at.