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Priti Patel: Undisclosed Meetings in Israel

A shame.

I thougt she was one of the more attractive (I wo'nt say priti) cabinet members.

I saw Liz Kendal walking along a London Street last week.

It made me think, there should be more pr er attractive ladies in power. In the interests of political balance.
 
Labour MP's in "friends of Israel" should be expelled from the party.

Agree. The problem is the Israeli lobby then starts shouting "Anti Semitics" as loudly as possible through their friends in the press and Corbyn starts getting BS time on TV rather than attacking the real issues all British citizens face.

It's ironic that Corbyn is relentlessly attacked for any links to terrorists in the Seventies and yet these MP's face no such interrogation about their active support for terrorism today. It rather exposes the double standards of the Western media and the influence the Israeli lobby has on it.
 
Labour MP's in "friends of Israel" should be expelled from the party.
That is as broad minded and tolerant as saying that members of the Labour Party should be expelled from Friends of Israel. In spite of the appalling quality of many of the world's politicians, these days, I'm grateful that people like you and Maxflinn are not in positions of power.
 
That is as broad minded and tolerant as saying that members of the Labour Party should be expelled from Friends of Israel.
I would have no problem with this, except for the milking of the the situation FOI would enact. You know "racist Labour MP's expelled" "terrorist's friends MP's position incompatible with membership" and so on.
The usual predictable cr4p.
In the usual sympathetic cr4psheets.
And on the good old impartial BBC, of course.

Why not a "Join Friends of Israel and get free affiliated membership to Friends of Apartheid AND Pals of Genocide" membership drive?

Really WTF are Labour MP's doing in this organisation?

I'm grateful that people like you and Maxflinn are not in positions of power.

Me too! What have I done?
 
Labour MP's in "friends of Israel" should be expelled from the party.
Foreign lobby groups should be banned full stop, IMO.

Look at the state of the US because of the Zionist and Saudi lobbies; 50 million Americans going to food banks while Congress approves $700 billion for more warmongering..

Meanwhile in the UK you’ve got countless Zionist shills operating through the media to try to bring down a man who’s genuinely committed to improving the lives of millions of British people that are also struggling.

So sad..
 
That is as broad minded and tolerant as saying that members of the Labour Party should be expelled from Friends of Israel. In spite of the appalling quality of many of the world's politicians, these days, I'm grateful that people like you and Maxflinn are not in positions of power.

... and I suppose we should be "broad minded and tolerant" of actual Anti-Semites such as EDL, BNP etc?... Probably had a difficult childhood, a bit confused.. cut 'em some slack eh?

So long as Israel remains a far right, apartheid country, occupying Palestinian land illegally, building illegal settlements and refusing to comply with UN resolutions, the country will continue to get a dogs abuse from me at every opportunity and I will continue to boycott it in every way possible.

The freedom now enjoyed by all in South Africa will continue to inspire me. I guess if Afrikaners had as much money to buy influence as Israel has then unfortunately things may never have changed there either..
 
I was rather dismayed that Labour didn't basically go "there's no Anti Semitics here, now fvck off" to their Israeli owned critics. It was an utter disgrace that Livingstone had to go through all that crap...

He said some profoundly stupid stuff. Stuff so stupid even a rookie MP would be considered an ignorant idiot for saying it, just incomprehensible from a person of his political stature. The footage of Livingstone and the even more stupid and intransigent John Mann belowing at each other are a perfect example of why I could never be a Labour Party member. They are preferable to a truly morally reprehensible and fundamentally corrupt Tory party, but they are still a bunch of bloody idiots! Stupid enough to allow the anti-Semitism tag to stick.
 
... and I suppose we should be "broad minded and tolerant" of actual Anti-Semites such as EDL, BNP etc?... Probably had a difficult childhood, a bit confused.. cut 'em some slack eh?

So long as Israel remains a far right, apartheid country, occupying Palestinian land illegally, building illegal settlements and refusing to comply with UN resolutions, the country will continue to get a dogs abuse from me at every opportunity and I will continue to boycott it in every way possible.

The freedom now enjoyed by all in South Africa will continue to inspire me. I guess if Afrikaners had as much money to buy influence as Israel has then unfortunately things may never have changed there either..

I can understand your position that Israel should not exist at all. That about 150 years ago an international decision should have been taken to expel all the Jews living there and to forbid any Jewish immigration in the future, and thus leave it all to the Arabs. (Which Arabs is another issue). But since it does exists, it seems to me that you think that anyone who does not agree 100% with you is in the pay of the Israelis or of an international Jewish conspiracy network. This is not the case. There are plenty of free-thinking, responsible and intelligent people (even in the Labour Party) who like to feel that they are friends of Israel.
 
He said some profoundly stupid stuff. Stuff so stupid even a rookie MP would be considered an ignorant idiot for saying it, just incomprehensible from a person of his political stature. The footage of Livingstone and the even more stupid and intransigent John Mann belowing at each other are a perfect example of why I could never be a Labour Party member. They are preferable to a truly morally reprehensible and fundamentally corrupt Tory party, but they are still a bunch of bloody idiots! Stupid enough to allow the anti-Semitism tag to stick.

I disagree and will probably be joining The Labour Party myself at some point. The mere fact that Livingstone is anti Israel and prepared to "stand up and be counted" as such stands for infinitely more than his competence in doing so IMHO.
 
I can understand your position that Israel should not exist at all. That about 150 years ago an international decision should have been taken to expel all the Jews living there and to forbid any Jewish immigration in the future, and thus leave it all to the Arabs. (Which Arabs is another issue). But since it does exists, it seems to me that you think that anyone who does not agree 100% with you is in the pay of the Israelis or of an international Jewish conspiracy network. This is not the case. There are plenty of free-thinking, responsible and intelligent people (even in the Labour Party) who like to feel that they are friends of Israel.

I'm afraid that "free-thinking, responsible and intelligent" + "friends of Israel" = Oxymoron
 
Still one of the most concise guides to reaching the level of many of those on my ignore list here,

For the benefit of the many not-very-bright zionist wannabe apologists, I decided to offer a clear and simple method of arguing the case for Israel. This clear and simple method has been distilled from a life spent listening to and reading Zionist propaganda. It is easy to follow and results are guaranteed or your money back.

So don't hesitate! Take advantage NOW of this revolutionary rhetorical system that will make YOU a great apologist for Israel in less time than it takes to shoot a Palestinian toddler in the eye.

Ready? 1..2..3..GO!


You need to understand just one principle:

The case for Israel is made of four propositions that should always be presented in the correct escalating order.
  1. We rock
  2. They suck
  3. You suck
  4. Everything sucks

That's it. Now you know everything that it took me a lifetime to learn. The rest is details; filling in the dotted lines.

You begin by saying how great Israel is. Israel want peace; Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East; the desert blooms; kibutz; Israelis invented antibiotics, the wheel, the E minor scale; thanks to the occupation Palestinians no longer live in caves; Israel liberates Arab women; Israel has the most moral army in the world, etc.

This will win over 50% of your listeners immediately. Don't worry about the factual content. This is about brand identity, not writing a PhD. Do you really think BP is 'beyond petroleum'?

Then you go into the second point: They suck. Here you talk about the legal system of Saudi Arabia, gay rights in Iran, slave trade in the Sudan, Mohammad Atta, the burqa, Palestinians dancing after 9/11, Arafat's facial hair, etc.

There is only one additional principle you need to understand here. It will separate you from the amateurs. You need to know your audience. If you've got a crowd already disposed to racist logic, go for it with everything you have. But if you get a liberal crowd, you need to sugar coat the racism a bit. Focus on women rights, human rights, religious tolerance, "clash of civilizations", terrorism, they teach their children to hate, etc. Deep down your audience WANTS to enjoy racism and feel superior. They just need the proper encouragement so they can keep their sophisticated self-image. Give them what they crave and they'll adore you! But be careful not to 'mix n match,' because it will cost you credibility.

When you're done, there will always be dead-enders insisting that abuse of gays in Iran does not justify ethnic cleansing in Palestine. Take a deep breath, and pull the doomsday weapon: You suck!

You're a Jew-hater, Arab-lover, anti-Semite, you're a pinko, a commie, a dreamer, a naive, a self-hater, you have issues, your mother worked for the Nazis, Prince Bandar buys you cookies, you forgot you were responsible for the holocaust, etc. The more the merrier. By the time you end this barrage, only a handful would be left standing. For mopping them up, you use the ultimate postmodern wisdom: Everything sucks.

War, genocide, racism, oppression are everywhere. From the Roma in Italy to the Native-Americans in the U.S., the weak are victimized. Why pick on Israel? It's the way of the world. Look! Right is only in question between equals in power; the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must. Ethics, schmethics. Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. Eat, drink! Carpe diem! The Palestinians would throw us into the sea if they could. Ha ha!

Trust me, that's as far as words can go. If you followed this method faithfully, you've done your work. You should leave the few who are still unconvinced to the forces of order.

Congratulations!
You are now ready to apologise for Israel like a pro.
 
People keep mentioning their "ignore list," and I don't know what this is. Is it something one holds in one's bosom, or is there a button for it somewhere on the website?
 


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