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One more question on Prime Lenses (honest)

Discussion in 'photo' started by garyi, Mar 19, 2006.

  1. guybat

    guybat [+]

    I'd really go for a new 35mm from Microglobe or Com2buy for £180 rather than trying to save £30 - -I just don't think it's worth the risk. "Good" can mean "has been used as an ice hockey puck" in s/h lens parlance.
  2. Greg

    Greg 2t5b

    Thanks guybat and Joe for indulging me off topic. I think the D200 is a bit out of reach for me price wise. So then the 50, 70s and 100 are 6.1 MP and the canon's are 8.1 - assuming this difference isnt an issue regards results... I saw a new D100 body going cheap (c. £579) (UK camera specialist who appears legit), but am I right in thinking it's shortly to be discontinued?

    So regards optics then we're back with Gary's thread.

    If you could only have two lenses for, say, the F50 what would you recommend aiming for? I'm reasonably flexible budget-wise (within reason ;) )
  3. garyi

    garyi leave blank

    Thanks guy, but its actually a saving of £120 or well over half hehe.

    But yes I get your point.
  4. Greg

    Greg 2t5b

    :eek: :D
  5. guybat

    guybat [+]

    The D100 has been discontinued for some time now. The D70 is probably next to be speed-bumped, while the D50 is still pretty new.

    Lens-wise - what focal length(s) do you most use on your AF NIKKOR 24-85mm 2.8 - 4.0 D? Probably best to get one good prime lens at that length, and stick with it until you really 'need' a new lens.

    BTW re: ice hockey pucks - there's a great story of a Leica rep demonstrating sone mega-expensive new Leica lens. He got some barbed wire out of his pocket, attacked lens back and front with it, kicked it round the room a few times, and then said, "OK, time to take some pictures".

  6. AlexG

    AlexG ...

    I can't see Nikon ditching the D70s any time soon.

    If they did, there'd be too massive a gap from the D50 (£370) to the D200 (£1300).

  7. guybat

    guybat [+]

    I'm sure they won't ditch it. I just hope for a slightly more meaningful upgrade than the Canon 20D - 30D non-event. Maybe a proper viewfinder? Please?
  8. Joe P

    Joe P certified Buffologist / mod


    In practice, the difference between Nikon's 6MP vs Canon's 8MP is irrelevant. Either camera has more than enough pixels (or not nearly enough) for most enlargements. In other words, if 6MP or 8MP isn't enough, you'd need a camera with 20MP or 30MP. A couple extra MPs here or there won't make a huge difference. (Better pixels and better glass are far more important.)

    Personally? Well, I'm doing mainly people shots with digital these days, so on a budget the 35mm f/2 and 50mm f/1.8 Nikkors are good choices. If you could stretch it a bit further, the 85mm f/1.8 or 20mm f/2.8 Nikkor would be worth looking at.

  9. guybat

    guybat [+]

    Wot Joe said. Or a 24mm f/2.8.
  10. Heath

    Heath pfm Member

    I can't see that happening any time soon. It's not that long ago that Nikon did the less than meaningful D70 - D70s upgrade.

  11. Greg

    Greg 2t5b

    I'd agree. I bought the F80 along similar thinking - the F50 wasnt quite enough (in my humble opnion) and the F100 seemed to much (£wise). I picked it up for £479 with the optional data back plate, the lense was (from memory) about the same at the time.

    The "s" revision to the 70 appears (I think) to adjust it sufficient to make it at least worth considering. Though looking at the features list of the D70s it doesnt scream out to be bought over the D50.
  12. Greg

    Greg 2t5b

    So would anyone say getting a cheap D100 now they're no longer a current model - as there seems to be bargains to be had - would make more sense than getting a D50?
  13. AlexG

    AlexG ...

    "Though looking at the features list of the D70s it doesnt scream out to be bought over the D50."

    You might want to fondle the two to see if you prefer either.

    I can't imagine you wanting to buy a body without holding it first, it would seem odd.
  14. Greg

    Greg 2t5b

    What makes you imagine that? Perhaps the same theme as your imagination of my age or experience of French dance music during the mid 90's? :)
  15. AlexG

    AlexG ...

    Get over it Greg.

    If you want to spend hundreds of pounds on something without seeing if it feels right to you, if you like the way it feels, if you like the viewfinder (chosen because it's quite a contentious thing on many DSLRs) etc etc then go ahead and knock yourself out.

    I really couldn't give a toss, I was only trying to be helpful.
  16. Greg

    Greg 2t5b

    Get over what? I've always been sangine, whereas you seemed to have an axe to grind.

    My point is you have imagined I would buy a camera body without having held it first.
  17. AlexG

    AlexG ...

    Are you deliberately missing the point? I think you are.

    All I said was that you should fondle them both first before buying one, and to not do so would be an odd thing to do. It's not a personal slight on you not to do this, and it's not an assumption that you wouldn't.

    It's just stating the bleeding obvious.
  18. vuk

    vuk \o/ choose anarchy


    this exchange reminds of that classic exchange between cliff and jawed many years ago, not to mention brian d. and matthew more recently.

  19. Greg

    Greg 2t5b

    Fair enough, I misinterpreted the "you" in your comment "I can't imagine you wanting to buy a body without holding it first, it would seem odd." as referring to me. Given your past track record of responding to my posts with mockery and willful misinterpretation it wasnt a crazy conclusion to draw. Let's kiss and make up.
  20. Heath

    Heath pfm Member

    Indeed. The DOF preview button and the second command dial on the D70s would be enough to push me towards that rather than the D50. I'm not saying that I couldn't live without them, but I would miss them. I used to own a Canon SLR that only had one command dial and didn't do DOF preview - it was great up to a point, but was a pain when doing macro work or using the camera in manual mode with no aperture ring on the lens.


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