anotherdom
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I haven't heard the Diapasons but I have heard the Hawks, so Hawks.
And me - so good I bought a pair (with 2 NAP300s to excite them).
I haven't heard the Diapasons but I have heard the Hawks, so Hawks.
On second thoughts - yeah, diffraction rings are the issue - or rather lack of
the problem with large speakers is that when they are drive loud they seem to be impressive ,turned down to domestic level the are disappointing
the problem with large speakers is that when they are drive loud they seem to be impressive ,turned down to domestic level the are disappointing . never choose your speaker at shows either. take speaker home to demo . tannoys are not suitable most rooms , in the right one they are stunning BOX
I entirely agree about not choosing loudspeakers based on "wow" moments at shows and other impressive short-duration demonstrations.the problem with large speakers is that when they are drive loud they seem to be impressive ,turned down to domestic level the are disappointing . never choose your speaker at shows either. take speaker home to demo . tannoys are not suitable most rooms , in the right one they are stunning BOX
I agree, also the room in which you heard the speakers makes such a large contribution to the overall sound. You really need to hear speakers in your own room.I entirely agree about not choosing loudspeakers based on "wow" moments at shows and other impressive short-duration demonstrations.
However I have not personally found that turning down the level on loudspeakers with good dynamic range, and so capable of playing loud without distortion, makes them disappointing. In web reviews and forum comments that criticism has been frequently levelled at the 'speakers I currently use and I can't agree.
In fact my view is that good reproduction of especially classical music and jazz demands that 'speakers be capable of cleanly producing output well above average listening levels, so the short-term peaks are not squashed.
I call hip-hop & most rock just a noise not music.Get a grip, some of the most creative music of the last couple of decades is within the hip-hop genre. There is good and bad music in all genres but music is absolutely what it is.
I call hip-hop & most rock just a noise not music.
I’ve found the exact reverse and that good large speakers can convey the real ease and scale of music at very low level. I also disagree that Tannoys (the really large ones anyway) are unsuited for small rooms. They are exceptionally easy to position IME as their bass response is real without relying on port artifice or other stunts. Vastly more easy to deal with than the typical ported stand-mount or small-driver slim-floorstander IME where the port is working overtime to get any impression of scale or heft. A big speaker like a 12-15” Tannoy, JBL, NS1000 or whatever needs no tricks or slight of hand so is far easier to deal with. They are fine close to boundaries too. I have heard huge Tannoys sounding excellent in rooms barely large enough to get a small equipment table between them! My room is far from large and my large Lockwoods work very well with no annoying booms or honks.
To be honest I suspect most people start with a little speaker and love it, then try a mid-sized speaker (e.g. ported slim-floorstander), find it booms and honks, and never even get to try a proper big ‘un which would likely be fine.
PS Do remember that the proper monitors (various Tannoys, JBLs, NS1000s, LS5/8s etc) are designed to work in a studio control room which is typically far from large.