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MDAC First Listen (part 00110100)

Discussion in 'audio' started by JohnW, Dec 12, 2016.

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  1. adamdea

    adamdea pfm Member

    Oh yes thank heavens we have someone who sells fancy usb cables to demystify computer audio.
  2. BigDog

    BigDog pfm Member

    IF your looking for an absolutely fabulous, both with regard to SQ and content, recording I would heartily recommend the Manger Reference CD...


    All of the tracks make for great listening but "Jazz Variants" by O-Zone Percussion Ensemble has become our go to track for auditioning gear.
  3. highfi

    highfi pfm Member

  4. JohnW

    JohnW Trade: Lakewest

  5. radamel

    radamel pfm Member

    If you're a Tarantino fan, most definitely!
  6. jirij

    jirij Virtual Member

    Worth a watch for the comedy factor, thanks. :) I haven't seen it in its entirety, but it sums up a lot of what "audiophiles" consider "good practices".
    He doesn't seem to quite know the underlying technology, otherwise he would have known (from the short segment I watched) that
    • SATA uses p2p topology and one controller can natively handle multiple drives just fine, it has dedicated circuitry for each, it's not acting like a port multiplier (a.k.a. SAS expander), so any delays, ATA command timeouts, etc., don't propagate between drives ... otherwise servers around the world would have a tough time
    • USB is quite similar in this regard, at least in the fact that you can have multiple devices connected to multiple controllers without sharing the allocated bandwidth (my 2010 desktop has 2xUSB2 + 2xUSB3 controllers ... the suggestion that you need to use a different interface (Thunderbolt) is just stupid
    ... and those were just 5 minutes.

    edit: To be more specific - anything is possible with today's chips from China, as I discovered, from non-standard behaviour to outright breaking the documentation of the chip itself. But the general point stands - the fact that I get sick from important "audiophile" figures suggesting stupid things because it makes sense to their "analogue" thinking. Sure, EMI is a thing and even though all bits are the same, the DAC'd signal might not be, but telling people they need NAS when a local drive would better suit their needs is just silly. And the even more silly thing is that people believe it. Sigh.
  7. muzzer

    muzzer Numb Nut

  8. timola

    timola pfm Member

    Yes, this seemed a bit strange to me. He said it will transmit errors as the data traffic on the hub clashes...I don't think sales of USB-hubs have not been affected by this.
  9. highfi

    highfi pfm Member

    Availability seems to be region-dependent, if that's what you mean.
  10. JohanH

    JohanH pfm Member

    It's called 'alternative facts'.
    People create their own reality.
    But, I agree, sad


    PS On the other hand, you cannot blame them for their stupidity. It's their universe and they believe in it.

    (Sorry, got a bit carried away there)
  11. misterdog

    misterdog Not the canine kind

  12. ChrisPa

    ChrisPa pfm Member

    Way better than nothing

    Is there not other equipment in a system?
  13. ChrisPa

    ChrisPa pfm Member

    Over the years I've realised that others' musical tastes don't match my own. I no longer query others' musical tastes, I simply try to avoid or filter out the music I don't want to listen to, and indulge in the music that I do.

    If someone's going to make a buck because the punters want to stream Like a Virgin, then that's fine by me
  14. ChrisPa

    ChrisPa pfm Member

    With regards mqa, and not wanting to start or continue an mqa discussion in this thread, if it's truly correcting for anomalies in the input/recording chain, then I can't see why that's bad.

    Let it do that, and leave it doing that.
  15. Julf

    Julf Evil brother of Mark V Shaney

    Sure. Was just reacting to the claim that that headroom makes it "never" happen.

    They were talking specifically about the DAC.
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