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Jeremy Corbyn's Speech at the Labour Conference 2017

Sorry, missed your post from last night so was wondering why you were worried and what SteveG was so cross about.

The Andrew Neil thing was fun but I wouldn’t read too much into it. IMO you’re not going to get a very clear idea about the strength or otherwise of the opposition from the little ritualised clinches of mainstream political programming.

Dear oh dear, you call the destruction of the spying accusations against Corbyn on mainstream TV a bit of fun. I suppose your bipartisanship prevents you having an open mind. The problem for Corbyn fans is that if they accept the Tory was embarrassing they have to accept the same for the Labour spokesperson.

The two main parties are both a mess just now when it comes to Brexit and tribalism is dominating both.
 
Dear oh dear, you call the destruction of the spying accusations against Corbyn on mainstream TV a bit of fun. I suppose your bipartisanship prevents you having an open mind. The problem for Corbyn fans is that if they accept the Tory was embarrassing they have to accept the same for the Labour spokesperson.

The two main parties are both a mess just now when it comes to Brexit and tribalism is dominating both.
See my previous post.
 
Pity the whole extract wasn't shown above, only the bit where the Tory spokesman is taken to the cleaners. A few seconds before that Andrew Gwynne from Labour's front bench is torn to pieces over his party's single market policy. Shows both party's spokespersons as inept as the other - Dumbledee and Dumblebum could have done a better job.

Agreed, he’s clueless, as is Labour’s Brexit “policy”. I’d still argue that it was different to the Conservative position which appears to be to make entirely libellous character assassinations and smears against their opponents rather than engage in real discussion about this nation’s precarious economic future. Basic incompetence vs. the very ugliest propaganda techniques. A strategy the Tories have clearly adopted from the American alt-right but are thankfully currently rather less adept at.
 
probably the worst series of policy decisions since the policy decisions by the 'well, let's have an election' policy.
Who the living flip are these policy makers and, why does the cabinet/pm listen to the morons?
Answer, because they have even less of a clue than the policy department.
Out of touch, out of ideas.
I used to be a bit leftist before Blaire arrived, but might need to go back, since there doesn't appear to be anything else unles one lives in Scotland.
Oh, wait tho....
I do.
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Corbyn and Labour are a lot smarter than the Lib Dems, Tories and Blairites.

Corbyn will announce Labour are in favour of a version of the Customs Union on Monday. If there is a vote about it in Parliament, Labour will win with the help of Remainers in various parties.

This will put a hole in HMS Rustbucket England, which the Tories are fleeing in over the Channel to Dover.

Meanwhile Corbyn has won an international peace prize and the British media have kept completely quiet about it. https://evolvepolitics.com/mainstream-media-silent-as-jeremy-corbyn-wins-international-peace-prize/

"On Friday, after his landmark speech in Geneva, Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn was awarded with a highly prestigious International peace prize. But you certainly wouldn’t know it from looking at the mainstream media.

"Along with political activist and historian Noam Chomsky, Corbyn was handed the Sean McBride Peace Prize – a prestigious award dedicated to the memory of peace campaigner Sean MacBride, a Nobel Peace Prize winner in 1974."

MacBride was one of the founders of Amnesty International.

Jack
 
Corbyn faces allegations of an inappropriate relationship with Little Mix.

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"Along with political activist and historian Noam Chomsky, Corbyn was handed the Sean McBride Peace Prize – a prestigious award dedicated to the memory of peace campaigner Sean MacBride, a Nobel Peace Prize winner in 1974."

I suspect he kept it quiet because Sean MacBride was a chief of staff for the IRA and, despite it being from a different period in Irish history, can you imagine the press headlines?
 
Corbyn and Labour are a lot smarter than the Lib Dems, Tories and Blairites.

Corbyn will announce Labour are in favour of a version of the Customs Union on Monday. If there is a vote about it in Parliament, Labour will win with the help of Remainers in various parties.

Jack

Corbyn might as well tell the EU he can fly to the top of the nearest tall building for all the chance he has of this being accepted. The EU will not negotiate on this, there is only one Customs Union and the UK is either in or out as it stands. Labour did not seek to join with the SNP and the LibDems to work against the Tories when leaving the CU was announced.
 
Idris Elba will play Corbyn in an upcoming Cold War spy thriller, according to The Rochdale Herald. https://rochdaleherald.co.uk/2018/0...emy-corbyn-in-upcoming-cold-war-spy-thriller/

Czech Mate is due for release in 2019. The film will tell the story of a Czech intelligence officer who was sent to the UK to recruit British collaborators.

"The movie will claim that attempts to recruit the then 37 year-old MP for Islington North were unsuccessful, but did result in the pair bonding over their shared love of bespoke elbow patches, jam-making and Marxist socialism."

Elba's agent reckons the role will be a challenge for him. "He likes to think of himself as a method actor though, so he’s spent the past couple of months sitting on the floor of Virgin trains, failing to confront anti-Semitism, and refusing to come up with a coherent alternative to the Tory government’s current Brexit strategy."

Jack
 
Ben Bradley, the Tory MP who tweeted the libellous claim that Corbyn sold secrets to foreign spies has apologised after facing legal action from Corbyn's team:

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I'm pleased to see that there are still limits to the lies one can tell about one's political opponents, even if those limits that are routinely tested by the smears and innuendo of our far-right press.
 
https://www.lrb.co.uk/v40/n05/chris...paign=20180224+icymi&utm_content=ukrw_nonsubs

'I don’t know Corbyn well, but I have been acquainted with him for more than thirty years. He is a modest figure, who has led a life according to his principles. He may well have been naive about some of the people he has met and platforms he has shared, but the idea that he is a communist agent is risible. I suppose we’re in for a lot of this as we get closer to another election. On polling day in 2017 an article appeared on the front page of the Telegraph warning that Corbyn’s election would be ‘profoundly dangerous … for the nation’. ‘In the past MI5 would actively have investigated him,’ the article continued. ‘He cannot be trusted with the fate of Britain.’ The author was Sir Richard Dearlove, a former head of MI6 and one of the men who got us into the Iraq catastrophe, an issue on which Corbyn’s judgment proved far superior to his. I had thought that the days when the intelligence and security services interfered in domestic politics were long over. Now I am not so sure.'
 


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