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For those who consider Avondale mods devalue Naim kit

Discussion in 'trade discussion' started by LesW, Mar 16, 2012.

  1. sq225917

    sq225917 situation engineer

    Have you been sleeping for a decade?
  2. markf

    markf pfm Member

    I think David was referring to the new! amp modules that we were told about,
    probably a couple of years ago now.
    2010 and 2011 came and went but we still have faith.

    “The SE amplifier module. Conceived in 1995, PCB prototyped in 1998 and finally refined
    to my satisfaction last year. Now signed off for production in 2010.”
  3. sq225917

    sq225917 situation engineer

    No doubt Les will release that when the other stuff stops selling so well.
  4. markf

    markf pfm Member

    You’re probably right Sq and to be honest there was little enthusiasm from the PFM crowd
    when they were announced so I’m not surprised they were forgotten about!

    anyway back on topic, what a great achievement the sale of that second hand power supply was ….!
  5. mudlark

    mudlark nearly half a clue

    After I bought mine there are now monos with the front end power supply. Perhaps his nibs is referring to them.
  6. markf

    markf pfm Member

    No I don't think so Mudlark ,the amps I'm thinking of were going to be a new range of
    RMS amplifiers using the new SE module instead of the NCC200,but as Sq said maybe
    the existing NCC200 variants are selling so well there is no need for these, I don't know.
    I never heard anymore about them and it doesn’t seem like anyone remembered to ask about them
    until now....nearly forgot myself ,it’s been a busy couple of years.
  7. LesW

    LesW Making electronics make music

    How true Simon, nail hit firmly on head. I'm short on resources having let my man B go his way so can't for the moment bring much new product to the table.
    I'm putting in some daft hours as it is and as I approach three score and ten, beginning to feel the pace.

    The SE boards, amongst a raft of other kit, are quietly waiting in the wings for when I get some new help (offers invited BTW).

    Now, is that OK with you gentlemen or would you like to have me flogged again.?
  8. Stevie A

    Stevie A pfm Member

    I've had mine for over twenty years,along with Les's turntable and speakers!!!!!!
  9. markf

    markf pfm Member

    It would be nice to have a RMS/Avondale Gallery with all the products from past
    to present. Not sure if a collection like this exists all in the one place.
  10. jackbarron

    jackbarron Stamford Bridge KGB

    That's not a bad idea.

  11. Stevie A

    Stevie A pfm Member

    Given that Les has been modifying/manufacturing products for over twenty years,that would be nigh on impossible,however i'm sure it's possible that one day there might well be something to celebrate the wonderful array of products to come out of Chesterfield!!!
  12. Don Atkinson

    Don Atkinson pfm Member

    For the avoidance of doubt Les, does this mean that you are perfectly happy for your products and your Avondale modification of Naim products to be discussed on the Naim forum ?


  13. JonR

    JonR Brainwashed Bloke

    Les might not mind but I'd imagine Naim taking a pretty dim view of any such discussion appearing on their forum.
  14. mudlark

    mudlark nearly half a clue

    I think the situation has changed in the past year or so. Previously finding about Avondale was a bit hit and miss as the website didn't adequately describe what Les does. The new site is very clear where Les is going and cannot easily be confused with Naim.

    Surely any perception of conflict between the two companies is historic.
  15. divedeepdog

    divedeepdog pfm Member

    I had a conversation with a 'Naim chap' at one of their NDS demo's. I explained I'd got an Avondaled 102, and mono 110's, didn't cause any issues.

    Officially we are compromising the safety status (CE mark ??) but privately mutual respect.

    I think we should applaud them both as successful British companies and let our ears decide, we have a choice where to put our ££££'s
  16. LesW

    LesW Making electronics make music

    Thanks Don and for the record:

    On the 9th February 2001, I was given to write to Paul Stephenson about some potentially
    libelous statements which appeared on their forum.

    In pointing out the errors I asked Mr Stephenson to be civil enough to remove the offending
    posts and perhaps be so kind as not to allow such damaging statements to appear without first
    checking the veracity thereof.

    To his eternal credit, Mr Stephenson removed the thread the very next morning and a sticky
    post advised that no more mention of Avondale Audio would be welcome on the Naim forum.

    I wrote again to Naim expressing my gratitude for their consideration.

    I am perfectly happy with this state of affairs as no embarrassment may be caused to either
    company by errant postings.

    The letters are on display on the wall of my workshop to avoid any doubt.

    I do hope that puts this to bed finally.

    Thanks, Les
  17. Don Atkinson

    Don Atkinson pfm Member

    Seems a pretty civilised and conclusive position which is still respected on the Naim Forum. Many thanks.


  18. LesW

    LesW Making electronics make music

  19. Take5

    Take5 pfm Member

    Made me laugh when he says this in his listing. (for a Naim 250)

    "I don't have the original box but have a NAP140 box which will be used for shipment"

    Now that I'd like to see.
  20. eddiep

    eddiep Member

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