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Driving With My Daughter.

Discussion in 'off topic' started by Mullardman, Apr 16, 2012.

  1. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart pfm Member

    I wouldn't gauge any other build quality by Alfa's lol.
  2. Have Fun

    Have Fun pfm Member

    I doubt that many here would pass the driving test straight off now & I include myself.

    as far as gear / handbrake / keys / clutch / starting go you have to have a certain sequence going
  3. hc25036

    hc25036 pfm Member

    Both my kids passed in the past couple of years and both were taught to sit in gear with the footbrake on at traffic lights. Drives me mad!
  4. sean99

    sean99 pfm Member

    Clutch thrust bearings aside ....

    UK lights give a more than ample warning that they are about to go green: if you can't slip it into first and release the parking brake in this amount of time then you're not paying attention.

    US lights give no such warning of an impending green but running red lights is such a common sport here that before pulling away when the lights turn green it's always advisable to look both ways to make sure you're not going to be T-boned.

    Either way, if you're at the front of the queue having the parking brake on could save you from being rear ended into the moving flow of traffic and suffering a severe side impact.
  5. rzme01

    rzme01 can't re member


    A driving thread!

    Just for the record, my driving skills are world class and my experience second to none.

    Should I ever voice a driving related opinion I will, of course, be correct.

    (insert arms-folded-across-chest smiley)
  6. Basil

    Basil Harbethian


    You should be happy you have a 'cool' daughter, driving with one hand on the steering wheel and the other on the gear shift is cool.
  7. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart pfm Member

    Well, the clutch in my Golf has lasted 160k miles so far, and RoSPA, the DSA, the IAM, and police advanced instructors agree with my method. Obviously if I arrive at lights just as they change to red, and I know their sequencing and timing, then I'll pop it into neutral.

    It's no big deal either way.

  8. PsB

    PsB Citizen of Nowhere™


    I think you over-estimate the fragility of modern cars. Your Punto will be fine even if your daughter keeps it in gear at the red light. Ditto the dear gear shift: it's built to resist enthusiastic Italian drivers as they zoom (or crawl, depending on time of day) from tangenziale to centro città.

    Alternatively, think of it this way: keeping it in gear at the red light means less fiddling with that fragile gearstick - has to be a good thing, no?
  9. mmterror

    mmterror pfm Member

    I must admit I fall into a few habits.

    When I was learning I had a tendency to put the handbrake on at every opportunity which annoyed my father and so from then on the handbrake came off at the start and never went back on till the end of the journey. Even waiting at lights on a uphill I'm using the clutch and throttle to hold position (a new clutch for my car is £60 and in 22 years I've only ever had to change one clutch), for some strange reason I feel that I'll stall it or forget what to do if I put the handbrake on which is total crap. So I have been trying to get rid of that habit.

    One good habit I have is always looking right over my shoulder when overtaking, yes obvious I know but so many forget. This was reinforced to me when I tried to learn to ride a motorbike a few years ago. That really helped me re-evaluate my driving habits.

    I feel that drivers that have to do a driving course for speeding etc. should instead be made to do a basic CBT bike course where possible. I learnt a lot more about driving a car from that. Strange but true.
  10. sean99

    sean99 pfm Member

    I agree. The main thing is having the handbrake on, not sitting there with the clutch depressed and using just the foot brake (blinding the driver behind and very dangerous if you're rear-ended since your foot will come off the brake.
  11. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart pfm Member

    ^^ and clutch!!!!
  12. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart pfm Member

    No need. People just need one or two hours of advanced training to make them realise so many wrong habits. I constantly analyse my own driving, and try to learn from others (when holding back from picking holes lol)

  13. Pete the Feet

    Pete the Feet pfm Member

    Mull the most important thing here is not to piss your daughter off and destroy her confidence.
    My Dad was a onetime driving instructor and an exceptionally good driver, but I used to dread him being a passenger as I would always drop a clanger when he was in the car. He didn't even have to say anything, I just knew.
    He wasn't a tyrannt or a bully like some parents can be but a terrible passenger. The Mrs is also a lousy passenger so perhaps I am a lousy driver, who cares.
    Let her make her own mistakes and learn from them otherwise you may find yourself waiting for the bus to the outpatients in the future.
  14. Mullardman

    Mullardman Resident Philistine

    Well obviously.

    But I'll be more correct than yow!

  15. mmterror

    mmterror pfm Member

    I remember driving my dad in my old Volvo 340DL which had about 65hp. We were sitting at a steepish junction and when the road was clear I hit the gas pedal hard and launched the thing so hard the whole underside seemed to clunk to the back of the car.

    Dad went "what the hell do you do that for?"

    I then realised and told him that in fact I was used to driving that heavy and underpowered car with four passengers (we car shared for work back then) and thats how you had to drive it. Just habit again.

    Luckily he understood and said "Yes I suppose so, but take it steady."
  16. Minstrel SE

    Minstrel SE These go to eleven

    I am a careful driver and its a matter of common sense. If Im stopped for a long while of course I take it out of gear and even turn the engine off.

    If you get rear ended at any speed your car will be moving forward handbrake or not. Its often the people not in full control of the car and doing everything by the numbers that are most dangerous.

    You can see them handbrake off on the hill, roll back a way, finding the clutch bite and off they stutter.

    I strip cars down so I know all about the tolerable limits of clutch and gear wear.
    Nobody drives with hands at 10 to 2 all the time and you want to be looking out for the people rigidly holding the wheel like grim death.The car is obviously in control of them.

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