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Brio-R or Mira3?

Discussion in 'audio' started by bcwang, Mar 1, 2012.

  1. bcwang

    bcwang Active Member

    Brio-R or Mira 3? Both are equally priced, which is the better performing amp? Please comment if you've compared the two or can offer suggestions one way or the other.

    They'll be driving the RS5 speaker and used with a Saturn and Rega DAC.


    edit: Also, is there any reason not to go with the Cambridge Audio 840A V2 which is also about the same price now? It seems like a well regarded unit as well and at the new price....it's very tempting.
  2. hifi_dave

    hifi_dave Hi-Fi Retailer

    There is no substitute for hearing them yourself, as we all have different tastes.

    Personally, I prefer the Brio R for it's much beefier and dynamic presentation. The Mira is more laid back and sophisticated but might suit polite music better.
  3. linnfomaniac83

    linnfomaniac83 Expert in sheep worrying.

    Brio R, no contest for me!
  4. M@ver1ck

    M@ver1ck pfm Member

    Defintely Brio-R if you're using the Rega Dac. The rega dac is great and everything, but it gels the best with the Brio-R. If you're planning on getting rid of hte dac, and just use the saturn, then the mira might be a better bet; which might not be a bad option, if you're really only spinning CDs.
  5. ArtK

    ArtK British HiFi Nut!

    I've owned both...Brio-R is my preference.
  6. Alco

    Alco pfm Member

    Guys,..I'm getting curious about the Brio R amp, after so many raving reviews and users findings.
    (not even talking about the great looks), but...

    I just noticed on a site that the power-consumption of the Brio R is rated at 195 watts. :eek:

    That seems like an awful lot, especially compared to my Nait 5i-2 that draws only about 10 watts.
    Wouldn't that mean an huge difference in the electricity bill ? :confused:
  7. bcwang

    bcwang Active Member

    Could you elaborate more on this please? What aspects make you feel the DAC a better pair for the Brio-R and the Mira3 with the Saturn?
  8. linnfomaniac83

    linnfomaniac83 Expert in sheep worrying.

    Ok 195 watts is the maximum consumption and in reality it will never consume that much power, it would be much the same as the nait in practise!
  9. Alco

    Alco pfm Member

    Really ? That would be reassuring. :)
  10. Conster

    Conster pfm Member

    what about brio r vs elicit?
  11. M@ver1ck

    M@ver1ck pfm Member

    No competition. Elicit is way better, but also way different. Brio-R is a scrappy little puppy, all bouncy and happy. Elicit is an adult.
  12. janerik

    janerik Apodized

    Not quite. As I explained to Alco in the Brio R thread, the Brio is biased into class A, so the 195 watts would be its idling consumption and not its maximum.

  13. Alco

    Alco pfm Member

    This means that even if I had it powered on for say 8 hours a day it would still consume about 50% of all my other electrical devices together on a yearly basis! (lights, tv, PC, fridge, washing machine, micro-wave, etc,etc)

    Hmm,...for me this could be the reason to dissmiss the Rega. :(
  14. AndrewR

    AndrewR pfm Member

    At 195W at idle, you would expect Class A output with 2A quiescent current per channel and a burning hot sensation on its lid.

    ...unless it is 195W max during operation.

  15. janerik

    janerik Apodized

    My bad. The Rega doesn't get hot at idle, so it must be its maximum consumption then... Alco, perhaps contacting Rega directly would clarify. I would hate that you decide against a wonderful amp based on presumptions here.

    Thanks Andrew

  16. Alco

    Alco pfm Member

    Thanks Jan & Andrew,

    I just sent a mail to the Dutch distributor for Rega to clear things up. :)
  17. linnfomaniac83

    linnfomaniac83 Expert in sheep worrying.

    It would be too hot to touch if this was the case, 195w is a hell of a lot in idling.
  18. Alco

    Alco pfm Member

    I also just sent an email to a Rega dealer regaring the Brio R's power consumption and to my surprise I got a reply within 20 minutes! (didn't realize that the shop was still open)

    The owner of the shop told me that all amps, including the Brio R consume more power when music is played loud. (makes sense)
    Also that any amp has a peak power consumption when switched on, because it has to reload the capacitors.
    (I hope that's the right translation, as English is not my native language)

    He continued to say that once the amp is warmed up (within a few minutes) it won't use that much electricity, and he reassured me that it wouldn't be any problem leaving the amp on 24/7, to be sure that it sounds best at all times. :)
  19. ArtK

    ArtK British HiFi Nut!

  20. chrisk

    chrisk pfm Member

    I use a Brio R, with RP3, Saturn, DAC and Rs3s. Brilliant system.

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