Cheers Raabsy.
No probs, be sure to send the next PPE contract my way, my barber is looking to get in on the action.
Cheers Raabsy.
Just to take one for the team, I followed the link. Warning, it contains Toby Young.
Many times in human history, virus and bacterial outbreaks have become effectively less virulent by wiping out most of the population who lack protective genes. See what happened when Europeans spread disease like mumps and measles into the Americas as an example.I wonder if this is wishful thinking ? Delta has shown that the virus can increase the R0 AND become more virulent. A virus with 20% mortality could still spread pretty effectively provided people were contagious for at least several days before becoming incapacitated.
I share your concern. It’s almost inevitable there will be a variant which evades current vaccines. If it doesn’t evolve naturally it will appear anyway IMHO. What do we do, lock ourselves up in case it appears?! We’re at the point where the vulnerable and enough of the general population are vaccinated, so really have to crack on and take whatever level of personal risk one is comfortable with. When I think about it, that’s what I’m seeing people do.
But you’ve been vaccinated! What am I missing? Why shouldn’t vaccinated people feel perfectly confident to lead a rich social life, with no social distancing?
Because the vaccine is far from 100% effective against Delta, because if I still get infected even if I don't get as ill as I might have done before I have no idea the vaccine's effect on preventing Long Covid (and nor does anyone else yet), because even if I get infected and I'm OK I could pass it on to someone else.... and so on. The vaccine is a big help, but it is not a 100% solution.
because if I still get infected even if I don't get as ill as I might have done before I have no idea the vaccine's effect on preventing Long Covid (and nor does anyone else yet),
Because the vaccine is far from 100% effective against Delta,.
because even if I get infected and I'm OK I could pass it on to someone else.... .
... and so on.
Covid deniers in action in Whitehall,
https://twitter.com/nickjhope/status/1404739070232829960?s=21
this is chilling
He's been caught and charged at least
https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...08c61ed4328e5e#block-60c9ae4b8f08c61ed4328e5e
They look like the same characters literally breathing down the necks of women MPs trying to enter Parliament two years ago.He's been caught and charged at least
https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...08c61ed4328e5e#block-60c9ae4b8f08c61ed4328e5e
Unbelievable that people still spout this nonsense.But you’ve been vaccinated! What am I missing? Why shouldn’t vaccinated people feel perfectly confident to lead a rich social life, with no social distancing?
Not sure what to say about this. It feels like an act of supererogation, but I will think about it.
There're comments suggesting that teenagers will not be vaccinated!!!!!!
It's not a trivial decision. Vaccinating teenagers would not be for the benefit of that particular demographic.
Who says? That might have been a valid argument 6 weeks ago but not anymore now that it's being widely deployed. Not the kids going to the new long covid hubs that's for sure. Kids have more chance of needing intensive care from covid than flu, that's a critical argument for me. Then you have the prospect of high case rates amoung teenagers and a mutant that better targets children developing, nevermind school closure and missed education. That needs to weighed against the risks, which appear to be similar to that of twenty year-olds...
Certainly an argument to be had. But in my opinion not something to be undertaken without proper thought and balance against risk. To quote your link:
Prof Calum Semple, a member of the government’s Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage), said: “The risk of death [from Covid in children] is one in a million. That’s not a figure and plucking from the air, that’s a quantifiable risk.”
The University of Liverpool professor of child health and outbreak medicine told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme: “We know in wave one and wave two put together there were 12 deaths in children – in England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland, put together – and that is rare because there are about 13 to 14 million children in the UK.