Guys, this thread currently looks like a huge waste of the bandwidth Tony is paying for. Certain posters are asked to raise their game or face a ban on the grounds of pursuing circular arguments.
If that still doesn't help, we may need to deploy the ultimate weapon - Star trek nerdery.
Markus - moderating
If that still doesn't help, we may need to deploy the ultimate weapon - Star trek nerdery.
Markus - moderating